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I want somewhere reasonably priced to keep my files where I can confidently know they'll be there a decade from now. For that purpose, I think S3's age is a ki

I want somewhere reasonably priced to keep my files where I can confidently know they'll be there a decade from now. For that purpose, I think S3's age is a killer feature. I won't be surprised when we see the HN post "google cloud storage has been sent to the graveyard"

szundi 2y ago
Google can do that. How could they kill even the IoT core, my fleet of devices just died. (No resources to migrate)
- kylehotchkiss 2y ago
  Their killing of domains, selling that to Squarespace, then Squarespace selling to PE was the most incredible degradation of service I've seen in a while!
  - dpkirchner 2y ago
    It was such a bizarre choice, I don't understand. Why wouldn't they want new businesses to come to them first? Naming a company often involves getting a domain and then paying for hosting, email, and/or other services. This all makes me think gsuite will be next on the chopping block.
    - vineyardmike 2y ago
      > This all makes me think gsuite will be next on the chopping block. GSuite is the most profitable part of GCP, and it's totally propping that division up. It'll be the last to go - it's a lot easier to recognize bad management. Domains probably was expensive to maintain or understaffed for some reason, and some exec knew a guy a Squarespace.
    - vel0city 2y ago
      I don't see how domains going away would suggest Google suite is near the chopping block. I doubt many major customers of GSuite even bothered with Domains. It was such a a small and bare bones business, pretty unrelated to the rest of GSuite.
  - antihero 2y ago
    Wait what's the latter part of this? I know they were sold to Squarespace, but who's PE?
    - kennyadam 2y ago
      Private equity https://domainnamewire.com/2024/05/15/private-equity-company-to-acquire-squarespace/ https://domainnamewire.com/2024/05/15/private-equity-company...
- justinclift 2y ago
  Oh wow, I didn't realise they'd dont that. Going to the page though: https://cloud.google.com/iot-core https://cloud.google.com/iot-core ... shows this: Google Cloud IoT Core has been retired. Several years ago a startup owner I was friends with was doing IoT stuff. If they'd ended up choosing the Google option for their device comms they'd have been in a bad place from this. Pretty sure they went with the AWS IoT stuff though. At this point, I wonder if there's anyone left on Earth who Google haven't screwed over in some significant way?
jimt1234 2y ago
I put all my "decade from now" files on three separate 500GB USB drives, each storing the same data, and each drive from different manufacturers/dates. Two drives stored in a safe at my house, and one in a safe at my brother's house. I used to store in S3, and it was more convenient, but I just felt weird about storing really important files on someone else's cloud -- what if I don't login to the AWS account for 9 years, and then when I need my files, I find out AWS kindly deleted/disabled my account and I didn't know about it? That situation is my biggest concern.
- daydream 2y ago
  Local vs cloud backups each have their own tradeoffs. I use both. For cloud backup I use Arq backing up daily to AWS (no affiliation with Arq other than being a happy customer). You get client side encryption and the daily backup directly mitigates your concern, if there’s an AWS account issue you will know immediately and can fix it. For my storage amount and use it only costs about $2 a month.
  - skulk 2y ago
    if you accidentally create way too much data and it gets automatically hacked up, do you get a huge bill? Or is it capped somehow?
    - daydream 2y ago
      I don’t know. I’ve been using this setup for 7+ years, daily backups, and never had this problem. I have about 80 GB or so of data being backed up. The daily backups upload only new files plus files that are changed. The largest monthly AWS bill I ever got was $6. The next month it went back to the usual ~$2 range.
- wnolens 2y ago
  What kind of files? I can't think of anything I have that I would go through this effort for.
  - 2y ago

szundi 2y ago

Google can do that. How could they kill even the IoT core, my fleet of devices just died. (No resources to migrate)

kylehotchkiss 2y ago
Their killing of domains, selling that to Squarespace, then Squarespace selling to PE was the most incredible degradation of service I've seen in a while!
- dpkirchner 2y ago
  It was such a bizarre choice, I don't understand. Why wouldn't they want new businesses to come to them first? Naming a company often involves getting a domain and then paying for hosting, email, and/or other services. This all makes me think gsuite will be next on the chopping block.
  - vineyardmike 2y ago
    > This all makes me think gsuite will be next on the chopping block. GSuite is the most profitable part of GCP, and it's totally propping that division up. It'll be the last to go - it's a lot easier to recognize bad management. Domains probably was expensive to maintain or understaffed for some reason, and some exec knew a guy a Squarespace.
  - vel0city 2y ago
    I don't see how domains going away would suggest Google suite is near the chopping block. I doubt many major customers of GSuite even bothered with Domains. It was such a a small and bare bones business, pretty unrelated to the rest of GSuite.
- antihero 2y ago
  Wait what's the latter part of this? I know they were sold to Squarespace, but who's PE?
  - kennyadam 2y ago
    Private equity https://domainnamewire.com/2024/05/15/private-equity-company-to-acquire-squarespace/ https://domainnamewire.com/2024/05/15/private-equity-company...
justinclift 2y ago
Oh wow, I didn't realise they'd dont that. Going to the page though: https://cloud.google.com/iot-core https://cloud.google.com/iot-core ... shows this: Google Cloud IoT Core has been retired. Several years ago a startup owner I was friends with was doing IoT stuff. If they'd ended up choosing the Google option for their device comms they'd have been in a bad place from this. Pretty sure they went with the AWS IoT stuff though. At this point, I wonder if there's anyone left on Earth who Google haven't screwed over in some significant way?

jimt1234 2y ago

I put all my "decade from now" files on three separate 500GB USB drives, each storing the same data, and each drive from different manufacturers/dates. Two drives stored in a safe at my house, and one in a safe at my brother's house. I used to store in S3, and it was more convenient, but I just felt weird about storing really important files on someone else's cloud -- what if I don't login to the AWS account for 9 years, and then when I need my files, I find out AWS kindly deleted/disabled my account and I didn't know about it? That situation is my biggest concern.

daydream 2y ago
Local vs cloud backups each have their own tradeoffs. I use both. For cloud backup I use Arq backing up daily to AWS (no affiliation with Arq other than being a happy customer). You get client side encryption and the daily backup directly mitigates your concern, if there’s an AWS account issue you will know immediately and can fix it. For my storage amount and use it only costs about $2 a month.
- skulk 2y ago
  if you accidentally create way too much data and it gets automatically hacked up, do you get a huge bill? Or is it capped somehow?
  - daydream 2y ago
    I don’t know. I’ve been using this setup for 7+ years, daily backups, and never had this problem. I have about 80 GB or so of data being backed up. The daily backups upload only new files plus files that are changed. The largest monthly AWS bill I ever got was $6. The next month it went back to the usual ~$2 range.
wnolens 2y ago
What kind of files? I can't think of anything I have that I would go through this effort for.
- 2y ago