> But the same powers that let government do that are also used to horribly oppress minority groups like the Uyghurs (bad!). And this kind of thing doesn't hap

> But the same powers that let government do that are also used to horribly oppress minority groups like the Uyghurs (bad!). And this kind of thing doesn't happen outside of Chinese pseudo-Communism? That would be an unreasonable assertion. Look at Vienna instead, where the municipal government owns a large share of quality housing. I've heard it works relatively well; for example, living in low-income housing doesn't mean that you get kicked out if your income rises. You get to stay in your community indefinitely even as you advance in your career. This is an example of how it's possible for good things to exist without some rando middleman getting rich off of it. (I mean, maybe some rando is getting rich here, I'm sure there's still a nonzero level of corruption; but it's not a system designed to enrich private individuals.) Things owned by anyone will be run to the detriment of the people without wise and careful systems built. Build good systems and iterate on them and you can have good systems. Build nothing, and you can have bad systems run by private individuals. The idea that private owners of land/capital are somehow immune to the corruption that makes government so scary is complete nonsense. It's just that nothing works without putting in work.