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Show HN: Simple and fast resume document generation with AI

52 points by prodtorok 2y ago

prodtorok 2y ago
Hey HN, my brother put a lot of effort into releasing his first app ever. Feel free to show some love on the product launch as well: https://www.producthunt.com/posts/cvgist?utm_source=badge-featured&utm_medium=badge&utm_souce=badge-cvgist https://www.producthunt.com/posts/cvgist?utm_source=badge-fe... Feedback welcome of course!
- alok-g 2y ago
  Consider adding a FAQ on the website. ----- I have an 8-page long résumé with good details about all projects I have done. Would it be able to shrink it to a two-page résumé? Is there a way to enter additional prompts to customize what's desired in the output? Are multiple runs allowed if the output is not satisfactory in the first shot? Thanks.
  - prodtorok 2y ago
    Thank you, will do.
    - alok-g 2y ago
      What're the answers to my own questions though? :-)
      - prodtorok 2y ago
        Is it ok to email you? We will set you up with an account, and you can try the resume shrinking for free. Sound good? We’d like to know how it works as well!
        alok-g 2y ago
        Sure. My email ia in my profile. LinkedIn too. Thanks
        prodtorok 2y ago
        Sweet, I sent a LinkedIn invite
- prodtorok 2y ago
  We wrote a blog based on the discussions here. https://blog.cvgist.com/2024/05/23/ai-and-resumes-cutting-through-the-noise-or-adding-to-it/ https://blog.cvgist.com/2024/05/23/ai-and-resumes-cutting-th...
lazerpants 2y ago
I think I would be more likely to use this if it were a subscription model despite usually hating subscriptions. Looking for a job is a time bound process and I want to know that I have full access to the tools needed for the entire time it takes to find a job. During my most recent job search the 15 rewrites may have lasted me less than a week. I was using ChatGPT to tweak every resume I submitted.
- prodtorok 2y ago
  Thanks for the feedback. Yea, the rewrites are needed. Users don't always know what they want right off the bat, and it hits them later on. Our original goal was to help people get their resume going and into a nice-looking doc asap. College students we interviewed were adamantly against subscriptions, so we pivoted. We realize it's a more effort for seasoned professionals. We're going to increase the cheapest offering to at least 2. GPT-4 has some cost limits, but we're actively figuring out how to squeeze more value for users. Our dream is to "speak to your document" and we're evaluating if we can and should try to get there. We think we have innovations in the word processing space... obviously it's not the safest area to play in with MSFT looking to innovate their own products with Agents.
  - richardw 2y ago
    Honestly, don’t base your main pricing on college students. Maybe have a deal if they sign up with their college email address. For the rest, price for the customers you want.
    - deleted 2y ago
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    - nramos3 2y ago
      It’s a great idea. I could also see pricing for professionals that are creating many iterations for many industries and roles. Something in a larger bulk, but favorably priced
  - heywoods 2y ago
cxr 2y ago
We shouldn't be writing résumés. We should be writing academic- or engineering-style six pagers where the target audience consists of your peers (and not anyone under the org's HR umbrella). This is why I think cover letters are maligned. They just shouldn't be mandatory. The best résumé is just a supercharged cover letter written by someone who actually gives a shit about what they're writing.
- zarmin 2y ago
  interesting idea, could you say more?
  - prodtorok 2y ago
    I think writing is a great idea, it was something I did earlier in my career. It showcased some interesting experiences of mine (matching algorithms deployed in the real world, porting neural nets to coreml in 2017, making advanced SSD configurations on kubernetes, etc)... these all gave me a lot of visibility and really only limited insight into my experience. Still, they enabled quite a bit career wise and plenty of conversation. The best platform turned out to be Clubhouse... where I could talk the talk with like minded individuals... discussing preemptible VM hacking with Kelsey Hightower was memorable. But that platform sadly dies a slow death. I think the cover letter is where experienced individuals have a chance to write the no-bs, all-out, explanation of why they are fit for the job. We choose not to offer this as a feature. The resume is an anchor for interview conversations, and filtering in recruiting. I agree that it is all unideal actually but regardless is a part of the process. It can be a barrier for job seekers, and we wanted to break that barrier down. I think AI is set to make the job seeking and hiring experiences better fwiw.
- deleted 2y ago
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- sbuttgereit 2y ago
  I agree... But the reality is that what you suggest requires a significant shift in thinking and practice from a meaningful proportion of the very people you suggest we shouldn't be targeting. And they, in my experience, aren't exactly the kinds of people that are about challenging the status quo, rocking the boat, or moving beyond the received wisdom of their profession.
throwaway115 2y ago
I mean this question with the best intentions: Can you share why you think this is a good idea and what do you think is the long term implications of AI-ifying resumes?
- rachofsunshine 2y ago
  The optimist in me hopes that this sort of thing kills resumes as a major communication channel for good. High-volume, low-signal, wildly-inflated-claims-as-the-norm structures have been devastating to good hiring, and I have some hope that as gen AI gets traction in job hunting that it'll take resumes from "low signal" to "no signal" enough to force a change. The pessimist in me says that that just kills inbound entirely and we go back to an almost purely connections/network-driven hiring process because trust in anyone you don't know goes to zero.
  - prodtorok 2y ago
    IMO human recruiters and staffing agencies have done far worse than what AI could do. My inbox used to be filled with 50+ resumes humans manipulated themselves - reviewing them for authenticity was hard and time consuming. We make no claims to make this better. We claim to help the job seeker. AI will indeed resolve dilemmas on all sides imo.
  - esafak 2y ago
    > The pessimist in me says that that just kills inbound entirely and we go back to an almost purely connections/network-driven hiring process because trust in anyone you don't know goes to zero. What is the alternative; interviewing anybody who happens to apply? That is not feasible. Companies need a way to sort out the wheat from the chaff; they'll take any signal they can get.
    - raincole 2y ago
      > What is the alternative; interviewing anybody who happens to apply? That is not feasible. Companies need a way to sort out the wheat from the chaff; they'll take any signal they can get. Connection. Every field will be as connection-based as politics.
salomonk_mur 2y ago
It would be great if you had the option to get the data from LinkedIn. Typing everything out is a chore when it's already typed.out somewhere else.
albert_e 2y ago
I like the price point - small enough for an individual to commit. Maybe you can try A/B testing to see if $2.99 does much better than $3.00 :)
kaeruct 2y ago
"sneek peak" should be "sneak peek" At least we know you didn't use ai for the copywriting :)
- prodtorok 2y ago
  thanks

52 points by prodtorok 2y ago

Hey HN, my brother put a lot of effort into releasing his first app ever. Feel free to show some love on the product launch as well: https://www.producthunt.com/posts/cvgist?utm_source=badge-featured&utm_medium=badge&utm_souce=badge-cvgist https://www.producthunt.com/posts/cvgist?utm_source=badge-fe... Feedback welcome of course!

alok-g 2y ago
Consider adding a FAQ on the website. ----- I have an 8-page long résumé with good details about all projects I have done. Would it be able to shrink it to a two-page résumé? Is there a way to enter additional prompts to customize what's desired in the output? Are multiple runs allowed if the output is not satisfactory in the first shot? Thanks.
- prodtorok 2y ago
  Thank you, will do.
  - alok-g 2y ago
    What're the answers to my own questions though? :-)
    - prodtorok 2y ago
      Is it ok to email you? We will set you up with an account, and you can try the resume shrinking for free. Sound good? We’d like to know how it works as well!
      - alok-g 2y ago
        Sure. My email ia in my profile. LinkedIn too. Thanks
        prodtorok 2y ago
        Sweet, I sent a LinkedIn invite
prodtorok 2y ago
We wrote a blog based on the discussions here. https://blog.cvgist.com/2024/05/23/ai-and-resumes-cutting-through-the-noise-or-adding-to-it/ https://blog.cvgist.com/2024/05/23/ai-and-resumes-cutting-th...

lazerpants 2y ago

I think I would be more likely to use this if it were a subscription model despite usually hating subscriptions. Looking for a job is a time bound process and I want to know that I have full access to the tools needed for the entire time it takes to find a job. During my most recent job search the 15 rewrites may have lasted me less than a week. I was using ChatGPT to tweak every resume I submitted.

prodtorok 2y ago
Thanks for the feedback. Yea, the rewrites are needed. Users don't always know what they want right off the bat, and it hits them later on. Our original goal was to help people get their resume going and into a nice-looking doc asap. College students we interviewed were adamantly against subscriptions, so we pivoted. We realize it's a more effort for seasoned professionals. We're going to increase the cheapest offering to at least 2. GPT-4 has some cost limits, but we're actively figuring out how to squeeze more value for users. Our dream is to "speak to your document" and we're evaluating if we can and should try to get there. We think we have innovations in the word processing space... obviously it's not the safest area to play in with MSFT looking to innovate their own products with Agents.
- richardw 2y ago
  Honestly, don’t base your main pricing on college students. Maybe have a deal if they sign up with their college email address. For the rest, price for the customers you want.
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
  - nramos3 2y ago
    It’s a great idea. I could also see pricing for professionals that are creating many iterations for many industries and roles. Something in a larger bulk, but favorably priced
- heywoods 2y ago

cxr 2y ago

We shouldn't be writing résumés. We should be writing academic- or engineering-style six pagers where the target audience consists of your peers (and not anyone under the org's HR umbrella). This is why I think cover letters are maligned. They just shouldn't be mandatory. The best résumé is just a supercharged cover letter written by someone who actually gives a shit about what they're writing.

zarmin 2y ago
interesting idea, could you say more?
- prodtorok 2y ago
  I think writing is a great idea, it was something I did earlier in my career. It showcased some interesting experiences of mine (matching algorithms deployed in the real world, porting neural nets to coreml in 2017, making advanced SSD configurations on kubernetes, etc)... these all gave me a lot of visibility and really only limited insight into my experience. Still, they enabled quite a bit career wise and plenty of conversation. The best platform turned out to be Clubhouse... where I could talk the talk with like minded individuals... discussing preemptible VM hacking with Kelsey Hightower was memorable. But that platform sadly dies a slow death. I think the cover letter is where experienced individuals have a chance to write the no-bs, all-out, explanation of why they are fit for the job. We choose not to offer this as a feature. The resume is an anchor for interview conversations, and filtering in recruiting. I agree that it is all unideal actually but regardless is a part of the process. It can be a barrier for job seekers, and we wanted to break that barrier down. I think AI is set to make the job seeking and hiring experiences better fwiw.
deleted 2y ago
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sbuttgereit 2y ago
I agree... But the reality is that what you suggest requires a significant shift in thinking and practice from a meaningful proportion of the very people you suggest we shouldn't be targeting. And they, in my experience, aren't exactly the kinds of people that are about challenging the status quo, rocking the boat, or moving beyond the received wisdom of their profession.

throwaway115 2y ago

I mean this question with the best intentions: Can you share why you think this is a good idea and what do you think is the long term implications of AI-ifying resumes?

rachofsunshine 2y ago
The optimist in me hopes that this sort of thing kills resumes as a major communication channel for good. High-volume, low-signal, wildly-inflated-claims-as-the-norm structures have been devastating to good hiring, and I have some hope that as gen AI gets traction in job hunting that it'll take resumes from "low signal" to "no signal" enough to force a change. The pessimist in me says that that just kills inbound entirely and we go back to an almost purely connections/network-driven hiring process because trust in anyone you don't know goes to zero.
- prodtorok 2y ago
  IMO human recruiters and staffing agencies have done far worse than what AI could do. My inbox used to be filled with 50+ resumes humans manipulated themselves - reviewing them for authenticity was hard and time consuming. We make no claims to make this better. We claim to help the job seeker. AI will indeed resolve dilemmas on all sides imo.
- esafak 2y ago
  > The pessimist in me says that that just kills inbound entirely and we go back to an almost purely connections/network-driven hiring process because trust in anyone you don't know goes to zero. What is the alternative; interviewing anybody who happens to apply? That is not feasible. Companies need a way to sort out the wheat from the chaff; they'll take any signal they can get.
  - raincole 2y ago
    > What is the alternative; interviewing anybody who happens to apply? That is not feasible. Companies need a way to sort out the wheat from the chaff; they'll take any signal they can get. Connection. Every field will be as connection-based as politics.

salomonk_mur 2y ago

It would be great if you had the option to get the data from LinkedIn. Typing everything out is a chore when it's already typed.out somewhere else.

albert_e 2y ago

I like the price point - small enough for an individual to commit. Maybe you can try A/B testing to see if $2.99 does much better than $3.00 :)

kaeruct 2y ago

"sneek peak" should be "sneak peek" At least we know you didn't use ai for the copywriting :)

prodtorok 2y ago
thanks