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This really doesn't get expressed enough IMHO: Musk is a liability to Tesla at this point, and obviously unfit to lead the company. Of course if he gets fired

This really doesn't get expressed enough IMHO: Musk is a liability to Tesla at this point, and obviously unfit to lead the company. Of course if he gets fired and the drama/fanboyism stops, what's left is a car company that is losing market share, with shitty cars rapidly becoming obsolete compared to the competition. So I don't expect shareholders to act.

Fischgericht 2y ago
To cut them some slack: There are German car manufacturers who have the nerve to in 2024 release new models that do not even have a heat pump build in. When it came to the actual EV technology, Tesla really had the lead. But they stopped innovating in this area, sadly. Now you are seeing the first 800V vehicles driving around, and suddenly charging at a Supercharger does no longer feel Super. If they'd change direction and immediately focus on what they are good at, they might stand a chance. But thanks to Elon it's become a huge circus of one distraction after another. In Europe for a complex set of reasons car manufacturers tend to put out SUV designs only, while most potential EV buyers want SMALL cars. The "model 2" (or whatever it would have been called) would have beat German car manufacturers here easily. Cancelling this project and to instead launch the Cybertruck... lunacy.
- pornel 2y ago
  To be fair, they have a brand new 800V architecture now, pioneered a 48V low-voltage system, and are among the first to have steer by wire. The problem is that these improvements landed in a car that is a symbol of a very public mid-life crisis.
  - Fischgericht 2y ago
    Oh, I wasn't aware they have a 800V design in the Cybertruck. What a waste of potential and engineering resources...
- rsynnott 2y ago
  > There are German car manufacturers who have the nerve to in 2024 release new models that do not even have a heat pump build in. I mean, yeah, you can get a trim without a heat pump. And if you live somewhere with mild weather, then you should probably do that, as the heat pump's contribution to range will not be significant, and it's extra cost and maintenance vs resistive heating. > In Europe for a complex set of reasons car manufacturers tend to put out SUV designs only My neighbour's id.3 must be imaginary.

Fischgericht 2y ago

To cut them some slack: There are German car manufacturers who have the nerve to in 2024 release new models that do not even have a heat pump build in. When it came to the actual EV technology, Tesla really had the lead. But they stopped innovating in this area, sadly. Now you are seeing the first 800V vehicles driving around, and suddenly charging at a Supercharger does no longer feel Super. If they'd change direction and immediately focus on what they are good at, they might stand a chance. But thanks to Elon it's become a huge circus of one distraction after another. In Europe for a complex set of reasons car manufacturers tend to put out SUV designs only, while most potential EV buyers want SMALL cars. The "model 2" (or whatever it would have been called) would have beat German car manufacturers here easily. Cancelling this project and to instead launch the Cybertruck... lunacy.

pornel 2y ago
To be fair, they have a brand new 800V architecture now, pioneered a 48V low-voltage system, and are among the first to have steer by wire. The problem is that these improvements landed in a car that is a symbol of a very public mid-life crisis.
- Fischgericht 2y ago
  Oh, I wasn't aware they have a 800V design in the Cybertruck. What a waste of potential and engineering resources...
rsynnott 2y ago
> There are German car manufacturers who have the nerve to in 2024 release new models that do not even have a heat pump build in. I mean, yeah, you can get a trim without a heat pump. And if you live somewhere with mild weather, then you should probably do that, as the heat pump's contribution to range will not be significant, and it's extra cost and maintenance vs resistive heating. > In Europe for a complex set of reasons car manufacturers tend to put out SUV designs only My neighbour's id.3 must be imaginary.