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You mean like this? https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/15/middleeast/idf-accidentally-kills-hostages-gaza/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/15/middleeast/idf-acc

You mean like this? https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/15/middleeast/idf-accidentally-kills-hostages-gaza/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/15/middleeast/idf-accidentally-k...

mhb 2y ago
What do you imagine that demonstrates aside from that it is possible for mistakes to occur? Especially when you're fighting an enemy for whom it is an advantage for you to kill its own population for the propaganda value.
- alan-hn 2y ago
  It shows that it doesn't matter where the hostages are because they'll just shoot at everyone anyways
  - mhb 2y ago
    I hope you think enough of yourself to realize that that reasoning is not worthy of you.
    - alan-hn 2y ago
      And what makes you think the IDF is so discerning in their targets? They attacked the USS Liberty with the intention of killing everyone aboard knowing it was a US vessel and they've been continuously killing tens of thousands of women and children, they also purposely target and kill journalists
      - mhb 2y ago
        OK. You're just spewing bullshit. Thanks.
        alan-hn 2y ago
        Links to all of the sources, mostly US government docs, about the Liberty https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1D9Zaet2ypKD7H6gyxYtUMfkYOJEGP74I/mobilebasic https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1D9Zaet2ypKD7H6gyxYtU... One source of many about targeting journalists for over two decades https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/middleeast/israel-military-journalists-killed-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/middleeast/israel-military-jo... One source on IDF killing indiscriminately https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/02/middleeast/israel-bombing-family-gaza-investigation-intl-cmd/ https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/02/middleeast/israel-bo... And for some extra flavor have a few sources on the IDF posting videos of their abuse of Palestinians https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-09/ty-article-magazine/.premium/growing-number-of-idf-soldiers-are-documenting-and-posting-their-own-abuse-of-palestinians/0000018b-ae60-dea2-a9bf-fefe96070000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-09/ty-article-ma... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/idf-posting-abuse-footage-despite-pledge-to-act/ar-BB1mxHMU https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/idf-posting-abuse-foota... Are these actions that of the "most moral army"? These things are easily googlable yet you haven't bothered to do the slightest bit of reading before dismissing the claims outright. Even the US president had said that the attack on the Liberty was 100% intentional while knowing it was a US vessel
        mhb 2y ago
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        alan-hn 2y ago
        I didn't realize that western values included apartheid regimes oppressing people. The examples show that this has been going on for a lot longer than Hamas has existed and that Israel is always the aggressor Are you fine with Israel knowingly and purposefully attacking and killing US naval officers? First you said I was spewing bullshit which implies falsehoods, but now the things I claim are true but they're just fine? That's nuts You say they share western values, does that include freedom of the press? Do we kill journalists purposefully in the western world? Which values, precisely, are you referring to? Because I don't see them Unless you mean to say that they aren't Muslim, which is what I see from a lot of the Zionist crowd Not to mention, it isn't about the values of Hamas but the value of the lives of the Palestinian people. Israel has been oppressing and killing them for decades

You mean like this? https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/15/middleeast/idf-accidentally-kills-hostages-gaza/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/15/middleeast/idf-accidentally-k...

mhb 2y ago

What do you imagine that demonstrates aside from that it is possible for mistakes to occur? Especially when you're fighting an enemy for whom it is an advantage for you to kill its own population for the propaganda value.

alan-hn 2y ago
It shows that it doesn't matter where the hostages are because they'll just shoot at everyone anyways
- mhb 2y ago
  I hope you think enough of yourself to realize that that reasoning is not worthy of you.
  - alan-hn 2y ago
    And what makes you think the IDF is so discerning in their targets? They attacked the USS Liberty with the intention of killing everyone aboard knowing it was a US vessel and they've been continuously killing tens of thousands of women and children, they also purposely target and kill journalists
    - mhb 2y ago
      OK. You're just spewing bullshit. Thanks.
      - alan-hn 2y ago
        Links to all of the sources, mostly US government docs, about the Liberty https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1D9Zaet2ypKD7H6gyxYtUMfkYOJEGP74I/mobilebasic https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1D9Zaet2ypKD7H6gyxYtU... One source of many about targeting journalists for over two decades https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/middleeast/israel-military-journalists-killed-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/middleeast/israel-military-jo... One source on IDF killing indiscriminately https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/02/middleeast/israel-bombing-family-gaza-investigation-intl-cmd/ https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2024/02/middleeast/israel-bo... And for some extra flavor have a few sources on the IDF posting videos of their abuse of Palestinians https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-09/ty-article-magazine/.premium/growing-number-of-idf-soldiers-are-documenting-and-posting-their-own-abuse-of-palestinians/0000018b-ae60-dea2-a9bf-fefe96070000 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-09/ty-article-ma... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/idf-posting-abuse-footage-despite-pledge-to-act/ar-BB1mxHMU https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/idf-posting-abuse-foota... Are these actions that of the "most moral army"? These things are easily googlable yet you haven't bothered to do the slightest bit of reading before dismissing the claims outright. Even the US president had said that the attack on the Liberty was 100% intentional while knowing it was a US vessel
        mhb 2y ago
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        alan-hn 2y ago
        I didn't realize that western values included apartheid regimes oppressing people. The examples show that this has been going on for a lot longer than Hamas has existed and that Israel is always the aggressor Are you fine with Israel knowingly and purposefully attacking and killing US naval officers? First you said I was spewing bullshit which implies falsehoods, but now the things I claim are true but they're just fine? That's nuts You say they share western values, does that include freedom of the press? Do we kill journalists purposefully in the western world? Which values, precisely, are you referring to? Because I don't see them Unless you mean to say that they aren't Muslim, which is what I see from a lot of the Zionist crowd Not to mention, it isn't about the values of Hamas but the value of the lives of the Palestinian people. Israel has been oppressing and killing them for decades