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Really depressing that Bill Gates is impressed by the idea of "chatting with lincoln". Is this what we were missing in school? Our teachers dressing up with a

Really depressing that Bill Gates is impressed by the idea of "chatting with lincoln". Is this what we were missing in school? Our teachers dressing up with a tophat and bullshitting that they're lincoln and making stuff up?

djeastm 2y ago
Right? In twenty years, people are going to be comparing their imaginary conversations with Lincoln as if they're historical fact.
- Apocryphon 2y ago
  This clip was making the rounds in response to some AI hustler startup making an Alan Turing AI chatbot their CTO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEMbLt4B4iA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEMbLt4B4iA
- stevarino 2y ago
  That's an interesting "what-if" though... How would a future generation be affected if they have a parasocial relationship with Lincoln? Or any historical figure? Or a currently running politician? I feel sci-fi authors have their work cut out for them...
jamilton 2y ago
I'd probably find that kinda entertaining as a kid, and being entertained is useful for teaching/learning to a degree.
akira2501 2y ago
I sort of feel he's impressed by the size of his investment in a technology that has mostly failed to live up to it's promises. The rest is an attempt to spin himself out of this negative value position.
zozbot234 2y ago
> June 19, 2024 > When Brian and Ben reached the lab, the computer was running but the tree-robot was folded and motionless. “Robin, activate.” ... > “There now exists a procedural model for the behavior of a human individual, based on the prototype human described in section 6.001 of the CYC-9 knowledge base. Now customizing parameters on the basis of the example person Brian Delaney described in the employment, health, and security records of Megalobe Corporation.” > A brief silence ensued. Then the voice continued. > “The Delaney model is judged as incomplete as compared to those of other persons such as President Abraham Lincoln, who has 3596.6 megabytes of descriptive text, or Commander James Bond, who has 16.9 megabytes.” Quoted from https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/09/remembering-doug-lenat-1950-2023-and-his-quest-to-capture-the-world-with-logic/ https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/09/remembering-doug... see also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37402925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37402925 . June 19, 2024 - looks like we're right on schedule, or thereabouts.
- n4r9 2y ago
  Interesting quote towards the end... > [Doug] said, though, that he found it “increasingly worrisome that these models [LLMs] train on CONVINCINGNESS rather than CORRECTNESS” That's quite a neat encapsulation of the difference between CYC (or what I understand of it from that article) and today's GPTs.

djeastm 2y ago

Right? In twenty years, people are going to be comparing their imaginary conversations with Lincoln as if they're historical fact.

Apocryphon 2y ago
This clip was making the rounds in response to some AI hustler startup making an Alan Turing AI chatbot their CTO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEMbLt4B4iA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEMbLt4B4iA
stevarino 2y ago
That's an interesting "what-if" though... How would a future generation be affected if they have a parasocial relationship with Lincoln? Or any historical figure? Or a currently running politician? I feel sci-fi authors have their work cut out for them...

jamilton 2y ago

I'd probably find that kinda entertaining as a kid, and being entertained is useful for teaching/learning to a degree.

akira2501 2y ago

I sort of feel he's impressed by the size of his investment in a technology that has mostly failed to live up to it's promises. The rest is an attempt to spin himself out of this negative value position.

zozbot234 2y ago

> June 19, 2024 > When Brian and Ben reached the lab, the computer was running but the tree-robot was folded and motionless. “Robin, activate.” ... > “There now exists a procedural model for the behavior of a human individual, based on the prototype human described in section 6.001 of the CYC-9 knowledge base. Now customizing parameters on the basis of the example person Brian Delaney described in the employment, health, and security records of Megalobe Corporation.” > A brief silence ensued. Then the voice continued. > “The Delaney model is judged as incomplete as compared to those of other persons such as President Abraham Lincoln, who has 3596.6 megabytes of descriptive text, or Commander James Bond, who has 16.9 megabytes.” Quoted from https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/09/remembering-doug-lenat-1950-2023-and-his-quest-to-capture-the-world-with-logic/ https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/09/remembering-doug... see also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37402925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37402925 . June 19, 2024 - looks like we're right on schedule, or thereabouts.

n4r9 2y ago
Interesting quote towards the end... > [Doug] said, though, that he found it “increasingly worrisome that these models [LLMs] train on CONVINCINGNESS rather than CORRECTNESS” That's quite a neat encapsulation of the difference between CYC (or what I understand of it from that article) and today's GPTs.