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California Senate passes bill to require speed governors in new cars

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
I feel like this is going to add costs to cars only to create significant annoyances. There are already too many chimes and alerts in new cars, as they become increasingly complicated and impose a lot of intrusive monitoring. As I understand it, each time traffic brakes to slow below the threshold and speeds back up, there will be an alert with an audible sound. It’ll be especially frustrating for drivers because posted speed limits are often too low. For example on highways pretty much everyone can drive at 75 safely, and the left lane rarely goes below that. Not to mention, I’m concerned this is just an initial bill to normalize nanny state behavior, with the next potentially becoming more surveillance state (like reporting your speed and location). Side note: I believe this is one of 10+ bills being pushed by CA Senator Scott Weiner, who also is behind the AI regulatory capture bill that the CA Senate passed last night. His initial bill text here actually pushed for active control that overrides the driver’s intent and caps the speed, so we know where the slippery slope is headed.
lopkeny12ko 2y ago
What we should really be doing instead is raising the minimum age for a driver's license to 25. I guarantee you that alone will almost eliminate speeding-related accidents.
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  In a car centric country where you cannot live without a car, this is impossible. We’re going to crowd young folks in the small amount of housing where public transit is possible? We built a broken urban system, highly dependent on cars, and now we’re living with the pain of these suboptimal decisions.
- hindsightbias 2y ago
  Who under 25 has a drivers license now? The kids uber.
- sparky_z 2y ago
  I'm curious, is there any data on accident rates for people who first start learning to drive in their twenties, and how this compares to accident rates for new teen drivers? It would be pretty silly to implement this law only to find that most of the "danger" comes from novice drivers, not young drivers.
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I feel like this is going to add costs to cars only to create significant annoyances. There are already too many chimes and alerts in new cars, as they become increasingly complicated and impose a lot of intrusive monitoring. As I understand it, each time traffic brakes to slow below the threshold and speeds back up, there will be an alert with an audible sound. It’ll be especially frustrating for drivers because posted speed limits are often too low. For example on highways pretty much everyone can drive at 75 safely, and the left lane rarely goes below that. Not to mention, I’m concerned this is just an initial bill to normalize nanny state behavior, with the next potentially becoming more surveillance state (like reporting your speed and location). Side note: I believe this is one of 10+ bills being pushed by CA Senator Scott Weiner, who also is behind the AI regulatory capture bill that the CA Senate passed last night. His initial bill text here actually pushed for active control that overrides the driver’s intent and caps the speed, so we know where the slippery slope is headed.

lopkeny12ko 2y ago

What we should really be doing instead is raising the minimum age for a driver's license to 25. I guarantee you that alone will almost eliminate speeding-related accidents.

toomuchtodo 2y ago
In a car centric country where you cannot live without a car, this is impossible. We’re going to crowd young folks in the small amount of housing where public transit is possible? We built a broken urban system, highly dependent on cars, and now we’re living with the pain of these suboptimal decisions.
hindsightbias 2y ago
Who under 25 has a drivers license now? The kids uber.
sparky_z 2y ago
I'm curious, is there any data on accident rates for people who first start learning to drive in their twenties, and how this compares to accident rates for new teen drivers? It would be pretty silly to implement this law only to find that most of the "danger" comes from novice drivers, not young drivers.

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