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It's a reflection of a general myopia in the American psyche, which intensifies as you reach the country's center where the rest of the world is relegated to be

It's a reflection of a general myopia in the American psyche, which intensifies as you reach the country's center where the rest of the world is relegated to being regarded as a strange abstract construct, and either ignored, disdained, or bombed.

AlgorithmicTime 2y ago
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edflsafoiewq 2y ago
The entire human race uses phrases like "this fall" and has since time immemorial. The only myopia is that American publications specifically are supposed to take place in some kind of universalizing cultural vacuum equally applicable to the whole world.
- parpfish 2y ago
  how DARE Americans use their own vernacular to communicate when there are other people that commit is different ways!
- elzbardico 2y ago
  Yes, but other countries are not the sole major super-power with almost an imperial presence across the globe. America is, until now at least, the closest thing to Rome we had since its fall, but far bigger and with much farther reach. I bet that if space.com looks at their analytics, they will find out that they are widely read across the globe, and the same applies to every other big media in the US. Being a global empire comes with certain privileges, it is only natural that it would also imply some costs. One of them being aware that you have a global audience. Like it or not, America is the new Rome, and Americans would benefit a lot from remembering this if they want America to keep its global influence.
r3trohack3r 2y ago
The great heliocentric conceit. The sun does not rise. Even the phrase “the sun” is heliocentric - which sun? There are many. https://mindpop.blankenship.io/index.html https://mindpop.blankenship.io/index.html
- dylan604 2y ago
  > The sun does not rise. Wow, pedants going to pedant, even so early in the morning. From the perspective of an observer on terra firma, the sun absolutely rises in position relative to the horizon. The actual causes of that doesn't mean that the sun is physically moving but is only the result of the earth's rotation has diddly squat to refute that to that observer, the sun is in a higher location as time passes until it eventually, wait for it...sets. Oh no, the horror to a pedant that we've now said it not only rises but sets too! Run away! Run away!!!
  - r3trohack3r 2y ago
    Generally respect your commentary Dylan604 But I wouldn’t consider this pedantry. It’s an observation that humans tend to look at the world through their own personal lens. Historically societies have built languages, maps, science and cultures that places themselves at the center. I’ve observed that bigotry against the people who have settled the American Midwest is in vogue right now but, even so, I’ve found it rare to see such a violent and aggressive display of bigotry as GP over something as mundane as using the term “the fall” in an article.
    - dylan604 2y ago
      Also, have issue with the sun comment. There are plenty of stars, but none of them are nearly as important to us as our star Sol. Of course it's going to be given predominance in our cultures. To think otherwise is just silly and just picking a fight for argument's sake. Yes, early theories were we were earth centric, but that was proven false. We know the universe is not centered around the sun, but we definitely are. Again, name something based on something so central to one's being isn't that far fetched. There's nothing disrespectful about call Sol "the sun". In other words, I think it's a silly argument only made on the internets. Even legit astronomers don't argue the point as something serious to be concerned.
      - r3trohack3r 2y ago
        The heliocentric conceit that you’re arguing against isn’t my quote from the internet. That’s Carl Sagan giving a speech IRL. I’d encourage you to follow the link I shared and listen to Carl Sagan’s full speech. > It's a reflection of a general myopia in the American psyche, which intensifies as you reach the country's center where the rest of the world is relegated to being regarded as a strange abstract construct, and either ignored, disdained, or bombed. There is nothing that I’ve found about the people that have settled the American Midwest that makes this statement more or less true than any other arbitrary geographic grouping of people I’ve come across in life when it comes to using language like “the fall.” Which I was trying to demonstrate by quoting Carl Sagan. GP is throwing plain ol’ bigotry at a group of people.
chfalck 2y ago
Surely you appreciate the irony of making an overly generalized claim that Americans overly generalize the rest of the world?

AlgorithmicTime 2y ago

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edflsafoiewq 2y ago

The entire human race uses phrases like "this fall" and has since time immemorial. The only myopia is that American publications specifically are supposed to take place in some kind of universalizing cultural vacuum equally applicable to the whole world.

parpfish 2y ago
how DARE Americans use their own vernacular to communicate when there are other people that commit is different ways!
elzbardico 2y ago
Yes, but other countries are not the sole major super-power with almost an imperial presence across the globe. America is, until now at least, the closest thing to Rome we had since its fall, but far bigger and with much farther reach. I bet that if space.com looks at their analytics, they will find out that they are widely read across the globe, and the same applies to every other big media in the US. Being a global empire comes with certain privileges, it is only natural that it would also imply some costs. One of them being aware that you have a global audience. Like it or not, America is the new Rome, and Americans would benefit a lot from remembering this if they want America to keep its global influence.

r3trohack3r 2y ago

The great heliocentric conceit. The sun does not rise. Even the phrase “the sun” is heliocentric - which sun? There are many. https://mindpop.blankenship.io/index.html https://mindpop.blankenship.io/index.html

dylan604 2y ago
> The sun does not rise. Wow, pedants going to pedant, even so early in the morning. From the perspective of an observer on terra firma, the sun absolutely rises in position relative to the horizon. The actual causes of that doesn't mean that the sun is physically moving but is only the result of the earth's rotation has diddly squat to refute that to that observer, the sun is in a higher location as time passes until it eventually, wait for it...sets. Oh no, the horror to a pedant that we've now said it not only rises but sets too! Run away! Run away!!!
- r3trohack3r 2y ago
  Generally respect your commentary Dylan604 But I wouldn’t consider this pedantry. It’s an observation that humans tend to look at the world through their own personal lens. Historically societies have built languages, maps, science and cultures that places themselves at the center. I’ve observed that bigotry against the people who have settled the American Midwest is in vogue right now but, even so, I’ve found it rare to see such a violent and aggressive display of bigotry as GP over something as mundane as using the term “the fall” in an article.
  - dylan604 2y ago
    Also, have issue with the sun comment. There are plenty of stars, but none of them are nearly as important to us as our star Sol. Of course it's going to be given predominance in our cultures. To think otherwise is just silly and just picking a fight for argument's sake. Yes, early theories were we were earth centric, but that was proven false. We know the universe is not centered around the sun, but we definitely are. Again, name something based on something so central to one's being isn't that far fetched. There's nothing disrespectful about call Sol "the sun". In other words, I think it's a silly argument only made on the internets. Even legit astronomers don't argue the point as something serious to be concerned.
    - r3trohack3r 2y ago
      The heliocentric conceit that you’re arguing against isn’t my quote from the internet. That’s Carl Sagan giving a speech IRL. I’d encourage you to follow the link I shared and listen to Carl Sagan’s full speech. > It's a reflection of a general myopia in the American psyche, which intensifies as you reach the country's center where the rest of the world is relegated to being regarded as a strange abstract construct, and either ignored, disdained, or bombed. There is nothing that I’ve found about the people that have settled the American Midwest that makes this statement more or less true than any other arbitrary geographic grouping of people I’ve come across in life when it comes to using language like “the fall.” Which I was trying to demonstrate by quoting Carl Sagan. GP is throwing plain ol’ bigotry at a group of people.

chfalck 2y ago

Surely you appreciate the irony of making an overly generalized claim that Americans overly generalize the rest of the world?