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Nobody questioned the basic human dignity of Reiser, and nobody claimed that we should memory hole prisoners forever. What was questioned was the good judgment

Nobody questioned the basic human dignity of Reiser, and nobody claimed that we should memory hole prisoners forever. What was questioned was the good judgment of Brennan and the list moderators for posting Reiser's manifesto to LKML. If getting your manifesto posted to LKML was a part of the basic standards of human dignity, California Health Care Facility would allow Reiser to post there himself. (And arguably LKML would not need moderators either - after all, declining a submission would violate basic human dignity.)

viraptor 2y ago
> it comes across as a "I can still affect you even from in here" Sure sounds like degrading Reiser below what would be afforded to a random person who has restricted means of communication. I hope he can affect other people "even from in here". Humans are social and communicate. > California Health Care Facility would allow Reiser to post there himself While I don't know much about that specific facility, there's lots of issues with prisoner treatment already. Are you saying they're at a really high standard and should be the benchmark in this case? (Or that the US prison system reaches that level in general?)
- saithound 2y ago
  I am not saying that human rights abuses don't happen in California prisons (inmate working conditions are a big problem, as is the state of solitary confinement). But on the specific subject of public internet access, I'm almost certain that CHCF operates in full accordance with the relevant laws and ECtHR opinions -- which, by the way, explicitly state that access to the public internet is a matter in which prisons can and should exercise the strictest controls.
  - viraptor 2y ago
    Wait, the thread is not about actual computer access. Of course public internet access will be regulated. I was originally replying about passing the message for him. Those are completely different things.

viraptor 2y ago

> it comes across as a "I can still affect you even from in here" Sure sounds like degrading Reiser below what would be afforded to a random person who has restricted means of communication. I hope he can affect other people "even from in here". Humans are social and communicate. > California Health Care Facility would allow Reiser to post there himself While I don't know much about that specific facility, there's lots of issues with prisoner treatment already. Are you saying they're at a really high standard and should be the benchmark in this case? (Or that the US prison system reaches that level in general?)

saithound 2y ago
I am not saying that human rights abuses don't happen in California prisons (inmate working conditions are a big problem, as is the state of solitary confinement). But on the specific subject of public internet access, I'm almost certain that CHCF operates in full accordance with the relevant laws and ECtHR opinions -- which, by the way, explicitly state that access to the public internet is a matter in which prisons can and should exercise the strictest controls.
- viraptor 2y ago
  Wait, the thread is not about actual computer access. Of course public internet access will be regulated. I was originally replying about passing the message for him. Those are completely different things.