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I don't think any of this translates to anything bad. He loves the movie. OpenAI invented similar technology. They wanted to use Scarlett's voice to market it.

I don't think any of this translates to anything bad. He loves the movie. OpenAI invented similar technology. They wanted to use Scarlett's voice to market it. She said no. They used a different voice. People really want their to be a crime here with no evidence. You all have ears, you can listen to both clips back to back and discover, unsurprisingly, that they are actually different voices. Not even an imitation.

zemo 2y ago
what do you think Her is about?
- wvenable 2y ago
  What is relevance of that to this discussion on whether OpenAI stole Scarlett Johansson's voice?
  - zemo 2y ago
    you’re using “he loves the movie” as some sort of defense, when the movie is a pretty standard sci fi cautionary tale. You know the saying: sci-fi author: I wrote about the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale tech bros: Finally we have built the Torment Nexus from beloved sci fi story “Do not build the Torment Nexus” Enjoying a story is not justification for recreating any artifact that occurs within the story. Her is quite clearly a cautionary tale, not meant to be instructive. https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/why-is-sam-altman-so-obsessed-with https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/why-is-sam-altman-so-obs... so yes I do think it’s very relevant that when you say “he liked the film”, the contents of the film is an admissible area of inquiry.
    - wvenable 2y ago
      This is real life not fiction. Perhaps we shouldn't crucify people for this sort of vague association.
      - zemo 2y ago
        there’s a huge gulf between saying “I think that guy is wrong” on a web forum and sentencing them to death in an extremely public and slow and painful manner. Nobody is being crucified here. It is intellectually dishonest to see criticism as crucifixion.
        wvenable 2y ago
        This isn't criticism, it's a witch hunt. Your argument here boils down to "he's evil" because of his movie preferences.
        CRConrad 2y ago
        No, that's long been established. His movie preferences just illustrate it further.
        wvenable 2y ago
        What's been "long established"?
        CRConrad 2y ago
        > > > "he's evil"
        talldayo 2y ago
        1. It stands to reason Sam could be held criminally liable over using someone else's likeness to promote his product. CEOs have been lost in federal court over sillier Tweets, and assuming Sam is in the right here is a silly move for any of us since nobody in this comment section has meaningful oversight of the OpenAI board. 2. If someone dedicated their life's work to building the Bioelectric Battery from The Matrix, I am going to call them evil. It's not because I hate The Matrix, it's because I consider the net worth of such a tool to be negative and object to it's creation entirely. If someone's vision is based on the wrong moral takeaways from a piece of media, then people will rightfully demonize them for it. That's society. "The function of science fiction is not always to predict the future but sometimes to prevent it." - Frank Herbert

zemo 2y ago

what do you think Her is about?

wvenable 2y ago
What is relevance of that to this discussion on whether OpenAI stole Scarlett Johansson's voice?
- zemo 2y ago
  you’re using “he loves the movie” as some sort of defense, when the movie is a pretty standard sci fi cautionary tale. You know the saying: sci-fi author: I wrote about the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale tech bros: Finally we have built the Torment Nexus from beloved sci fi story “Do not build the Torment Nexus” Enjoying a story is not justification for recreating any artifact that occurs within the story. Her is quite clearly a cautionary tale, not meant to be instructive. https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/why-is-sam-altman-so-obsessed-with https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/why-is-sam-altman-so-obs... so yes I do think it’s very relevant that when you say “he liked the film”, the contents of the film is an admissible area of inquiry.
  - wvenable 2y ago
    This is real life not fiction. Perhaps we shouldn't crucify people for this sort of vague association.
    - zemo 2y ago
      there’s a huge gulf between saying “I think that guy is wrong” on a web forum and sentencing them to death in an extremely public and slow and painful manner. Nobody is being crucified here. It is intellectually dishonest to see criticism as crucifixion.
      - wvenable 2y ago
        This isn't criticism, it's a witch hunt. Your argument here boils down to "he's evil" because of his movie preferences.
        CRConrad 2y ago
        No, that's long been established. His movie preferences just illustrate it further.
        wvenable 2y ago
        What's been "long established"?
        CRConrad 2y ago
        > > > "he's evil"
        talldayo 2y ago
        1. It stands to reason Sam could be held criminally liable over using someone else's likeness to promote his product. CEOs have been lost in federal court over sillier Tweets, and assuming Sam is in the right here is a silly move for any of us since nobody in this comment section has meaningful oversight of the OpenAI board. 2. If someone dedicated their life's work to building the Bioelectric Battery from The Matrix, I am going to call them evil. It's not because I hate The Matrix, it's because I consider the net worth of such a tool to be negative and object to it's creation entirely. If someone's vision is based on the wrong moral takeaways from a piece of media, then people will rightfully demonize them for it. That's society. "The function of science fiction is not always to predict the future but sometimes to prevent it." - Frank Herbert