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Hey, that's great! But wait, we already had a working mechanism to signal exactly this type of opting out[1] so let me rephrase the OP question: why does OpenA
by routerl 2y ago
Hey, that's great!
But wait, we already had a working mechanism to signal exactly this type of opting out[1] so let me rephrase the OP question: why does OpenAI get to be exempt from existing opt-out mechanisms and implement their own?
It certainly does seem as if they're trying to position themselves as a new standard against which content owners have to actively opt-out, and thus disregarding the already existing active opt-out signals. But that would mean that they don't actually care about privacy, and their opt-out signal is disengenuous! That can't be right, can it?? Surely everything they do is in good faith, just like every other corporation ever!
Anyway, the fact that they disregard existing privacy standards and rolled out their own privacy standard definitely gives me a lot of confidence that they will forever follow the privacy standards they themselves created!
Now excuse me, but I have to go get treatment for terminally metastasized sarcasm.
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robots.txt https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robots.txt
- NemoNobody 2y agoAm I missing something? I thought is was obvious that Microsoft is clearly about to establish the next "standard" with near windows level of ubiquity, it will end up our primary starting point to use Microsoft stuff - we won't open apps, Copilot will. Actions speak louder than words tho - look at how obvious they are being Copilot is included with windows, they added a button for it to all keyboards made here on out, built it into Edge, Office, is a standalone app, their search engine and now their Xbox games NPCs will be AI powered, prolly open to all their game pass studios. If it goes the way I expect Microsoft will be essentially done positioning themselves for the world we talk to and expect to listen to us - and organize, track and recall anything I talk to about it. Perfect for the smart glasses we all about to buy Tbh, I think this will be the end of computing as we conceive it now - just not for the reason I expected originally. Folders for example - I think Copilot will end folders and all the file organization stuff for normal users. I shouldn't need to ever kno where that stuff is on my PC after a future date, or manage it in any way. Instead we'll have "real-time" folders, created from our own saved content, assembled to our inquiry and according to our preferences all named, topic labeled, and dated - but not by us. Stored and retrieved by AI - lots like human memory actually. Bc we'd then NEED Copilot just to access our stuff - I think that is most definitely coming sooner than later
- squigz 2y agoI'm... pretty sure OpenAI respects robots.txt, as explained in the link GP shared?
- routerl 2y agoI'll accept my reading comprehension mistake if you can quote the passages you're referring to, but I don't see what you're talking about in the GP link
- cuddlyogre 2y agoWhether it respects robots.txt is irrelevant if its existence is secret for the entire time it's doing the scraping.
- squigz 2y agoI'm sorry, but I'm confused by this comment. What exactly is secret?
- cuddlyogre 2y agoThe several years that they were scraping the web to build their models and they weren't telling anyone about it.
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- gtirloni 2y ago*> why does OpenAI get to be exempt from existing opt-out mechanisms and implement their own? 1) because they are not in law 2) because you too can ignore robots.txt
- cchance 2y agoBecause robots.txt is a standard people can choose to follow, its not a law