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Why on Earth?

nofunsir 2y ago
Because it's objectively better. I also exclusively use desktop mode, and I can tell when a site's designer can't comprehend this choice.
- unclebucknasty 2y ago
  >site's designer can't comprehend this choice. I've built responsive sites that work as you'd expect in desktop mode, and I'm not 100% certain how other sites that don't are built. They seem to degrade into some odd hybrid between desktop and mobile. It's like the worst of both worlds. So, for example, you get hamburger menus, instead of the full desktop nav. And you get a different layout with an increased PPI, but it's not quite mobile and not quite desktop. I can only assume that they are looking at the agent string in addition to implementing media queries / breakpoints. But there's also something weird going on with the PPI. Whatever it is, seems like it takes more effort to create a poorer design.
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mattmanser 2y ago
I wouldn't do it permanently, but I use the feature sometimes myself. Some sites disabled pinch zooms (massively frustrating for images). Some sites exclude information in mobile view. I'm sure there's other reasons too. Facebook, Reddit and Amazon all have terribly made mobile versions of their sites, for example. Reddit's is comically bad, like they hired interns to make it who tried trendy stuff but didn't understand how to implement any of it properly.
- ChymeraXYZ 2y ago
  > Some sites disabled pinch zooms (massively frustrating for images). Best are the blogs that have embedded images of graphs or something and they are as large as you can make them (edge to edge). Try pinch to zoom... nope. Tap on image... Here is a smaller version of the image (not edge to edge). Oooookay... Can I zoom now? Hahahhahah....nope!
- JohnFen 2y ago
  > Some sites disabled pinch zooms I've always wondered why sites do this. What's the point of it? What does the web designer get from it?
  - essentia0 2y ago
    double tap zoom is annoying. it is easy to imagine inexperienced users getting lost because of it.
- psnehanshu 2y ago
  > I wouldn't do it permanently, but I use the feature sometimes myself. Exactly my thought. I too use it sometimes, but "always" is a bit too much.
- wkat4242 2y ago
  > Reddit's is comically bad, like they hired interns to make it who tried trendy stuff but didn't understand how to implement any of it properly. I think it's intentionally bad. They just want to force you to use the app instead. Hence the 5 times a minute "Reddit is better in the app" popups too. Unfortunately the real reason of course is "Reddit can collect much more information about you if you use the app". It's not about "being better". That's a choice, if they wanted to provide a phenomenal web app experience they could easily do so.
- MattSayar 2y ago
  I recently found an option in mobile Chrome "Settings > Accessibility > Force enable zoom" which overrides a website's request to prevent zooming in. Highly recommended
  - garciansmith 2y ago
    Yes, very useful. You can do the same on Firefox for Android: "Settings > Accessibility > Zoom on all websites."
- EasyMark 2y ago
  sure, but all the time? You guys must have ant vision or something :) . Sometimes I use it but it's pretty rare.
  - anal_reactor 2y ago
    I use Opera because it perfectly scales the text when I zoom in, as opposed to other browsers.
  - _carbyau_ 2y ago
    I recently hit that 40's age where short sight vision is now stuffed. I foresee a future of phone use frustration. Amusingly, I use my phone to magnify the labels for food ingredients to make sure myself or my kid aren't eating problem foods. It is amazing how many years people live after their 40's and so much stuff is now "hard" and yet no one will design for it. Even when they themselves will inevitably suffer from it one day.
    - ricardobayes 2y ago
      There are some apps which you can use to scan labels with and it will tell you which allergens does it have.
    - mannykannot 2y ago
      Aging and death is an abstract concept to youth, for the most part. Source: I've been there.

Why on Earth?

Because it's objectively better. I also exclusively use desktop mode, and I can tell when a site's designer can't comprehend this choice.

unclebucknasty 2y ago
>site's designer can't comprehend this choice. I've built responsive sites that work as you'd expect in desktop mode, and I'm not 100% certain how other sites that don't are built. They seem to degrade into some odd hybrid between desktop and mobile. It's like the worst of both worlds. So, for example, you get hamburger menus, instead of the full desktop nav. And you get a different layout with an increased PPI, but it's not quite mobile and not quite desktop. I can only assume that they are looking at the agent string in addition to implementing media queries / breakpoints. But there's also something weird going on with the PPI. Whatever it is, seems like it takes more effort to create a poorer design.

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mattmanser 2y ago

I wouldn't do it permanently, but I use the feature sometimes myself. Some sites disabled pinch zooms (massively frustrating for images). Some sites exclude information in mobile view. I'm sure there's other reasons too. Facebook, Reddit and Amazon all have terribly made mobile versions of their sites, for example. Reddit's is comically bad, like they hired interns to make it who tried trendy stuff but didn't understand how to implement any of it properly.

ChymeraXYZ 2y ago
> Some sites disabled pinch zooms (massively frustrating for images). Best are the blogs that have embedded images of graphs or something and they are as large as you can make them (edge to edge). Try pinch to zoom... nope. Tap on image... Here is a smaller version of the image (not edge to edge). Oooookay... Can I zoom now? Hahahhahah....nope!
JohnFen 2y ago
> Some sites disabled pinch zooms I've always wondered why sites do this. What's the point of it? What does the web designer get from it?
- essentia0 2y ago
  double tap zoom is annoying. it is easy to imagine inexperienced users getting lost because of it.
psnehanshu 2y ago
> I wouldn't do it permanently, but I use the feature sometimes myself. Exactly my thought. I too use it sometimes, but "always" is a bit too much.
wkat4242 2y ago
> Reddit's is comically bad, like they hired interns to make it who tried trendy stuff but didn't understand how to implement any of it properly. I think it's intentionally bad. They just want to force you to use the app instead. Hence the 5 times a minute "Reddit is better in the app" popups too. Unfortunately the real reason of course is "Reddit can collect much more information about you if you use the app". It's not about "being better". That's a choice, if they wanted to provide a phenomenal web app experience they could easily do so.
MattSayar 2y ago
I recently found an option in mobile Chrome "Settings > Accessibility > Force enable zoom" which overrides a website's request to prevent zooming in. Highly recommended
- garciansmith 2y ago
  Yes, very useful. You can do the same on Firefox for Android: "Settings > Accessibility > Zoom on all websites."
EasyMark 2y ago
sure, but all the time? You guys must have ant vision or something :) . Sometimes I use it but it's pretty rare.
- anal_reactor 2y ago
  I use Opera because it perfectly scales the text when I zoom in, as opposed to other browsers.
- _carbyau_ 2y ago
  I recently hit that 40's age where short sight vision is now stuffed. I foresee a future of phone use frustration. Amusingly, I use my phone to magnify the labels for food ingredients to make sure myself or my kid aren't eating problem foods. It is amazing how many years people live after their 40's and so much stuff is now "hard" and yet no one will design for it. Even when they themselves will inevitably suffer from it one day.
  - ricardobayes 2y ago
    There are some apps which you can use to scan labels with and it will tell you which allergens does it have.
  - mannykannot 2y ago
    Aging and death is an abstract concept to youth, for the most part. Source: I've been there.