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Did you actually read the article, and my and lolinder's comments? Because this is different from last week.

ChrisArchitect 2y ago
Is it really that different though? There are now 5+ threads going on the same bug, with a lot of the same sentiments, repeating. Verge and some of these news sources aren't exactly on the ball with this stuff, it's just same news. There was a fix/update, 24 hrs ago, good. Whatever, moving on. The other threads provide some more of the insights people were sharing around the bug etc, more than what might be repeated here so far.
- busymom0 2y ago
  Like I said, related doesn't meant dupe and this is different from those posts. When Apple's CSAM thing happened, we had multiple related posts too but they weren't dupes. I won't respond further because I don't want this turning into a flame war.
- lolinder 2y ago
  I think something you miss about the HN dynamic is that posts that fall off the front page quickly almost invariably have low-quality discussion compared to the ones that stay on the front page for longer. Some of that is because low-quality discussions fall of the front page quickly, but most of it is because the first comments on a post are always low quality, because they're disproportionately from drive-by posters who read the title but not the article or the existing comments. If a post falls off the front page quickly, then those comments become the only ones that get seen, which means even if someone comes along with a more thoughtful comment (unlikely) it ends up buried with no upvotes and no replies. If you let a "dupe" that's finally catching on stay on the front page for a while, the conversation invariably becomes better as the thoughtful commenters arrive and begin to leave their mark on the conversation. In other words: just because 5 threads are ongoing and uninteresting doesn't mean that this one didn't stand a good chance of having a good, useful conversation if left alone.

Is it really that different though? There are now 5+ threads going on the same bug, with a lot of the same sentiments, repeating. Verge and some of these news sources aren't exactly on the ball with this stuff, it's just same news. There was a fix/update, 24 hrs ago, good. Whatever, moving on. The other threads provide some more of the insights people were sharing around the bug etc, more than what might be repeated here so far.

busymom0 2y ago
Like I said, related doesn't meant dupe and this is different from those posts. When Apple's CSAM thing happened, we had multiple related posts too but they weren't dupes. I won't respond further because I don't want this turning into a flame war.
lolinder 2y ago
I think something you miss about the HN dynamic is that posts that fall off the front page quickly almost invariably have low-quality discussion compared to the ones that stay on the front page for longer. Some of that is because low-quality discussions fall of the front page quickly, but most of it is because the first comments on a post are always low quality, because they're disproportionately from drive-by posters who read the title but not the article or the existing comments. If a post falls off the front page quickly, then those comments become the only ones that get seen, which means even if someone comes along with a more thoughtful comment (unlikely) it ends up buried with no upvotes and no replies. If you let a "dupe" that's finally catching on stay on the front page for a while, the conversation invariably becomes better as the thoughtful commenters arrive and begin to leave their mark on the conversation. In other words: just because 5 threads are ongoing and uninteresting doesn't mean that this one didn't stand a good chance of having a good, useful conversation if left alone.