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Would you like iterm to provide Google search results? Should iterm have discord chats or irc channels in it? It's not what I want iterm to do, I want iterm to

by yareal 2y ago

Would you like iterm to provide Google search results? Should iterm have discord chats or irc channels in it? It's not what I want iterm to do, I want iterm to be a great terminal.

joshstrange 2y ago
Do you use tmux? If not are you appalled that iTerm2 has support for that? What about the other billion config/settings/features of iTerm2 that you choose not to use? iTerm2 is a great terminal. It was great before the update and it’s still great after the update.
infecto 2y ago
Don't assign an api key to it then?
h0l0cube 2y ago
And that it still is, with a new lightweight feature that needn’t bother anyone unless they wish to enable it.
whimsicalism 2y ago
if google results were as effective at generating exactly the command i want, yeah i'd want them to include it as an optional feature
jedberg 2y ago
If there were a way for me to type a question and get just the command line back by searching on Google, yeah, I'd like that too. But that's not how Google works. ChatGPT can give me exactly what I want.
- Xelynega 2y ago
  That's also not how chatgpt works... And if it were, what's stopping the same filters to be added to google to convert the LLM output(or the google search results) into just the command to execute?
  - jedberg 2y ago
    That's exactly how it works, as you can see from the demo video in the post. Because you can tell it to output like that. And sure, Google could add that, but it doesn't have that today.
    - Xelynega 2y ago
      That's still not how chatgpt works. That's how the plugin developed for iTerm2 works, but the actual result from chatgpt needs to be filtered by iTerm2 to get to the result in the demonstration. What's stopping the same filtering from being used on a google search result instead of a response from an LLM API?
      - jedberg 2y ago
        No, that's not how the plugin works. It sends context to ChatGPT telling it to return a single command that is copy/pasteable. The plugin does no filtering of the results. You can literally read the code for yourself: https://gitlab.com/gnachman/iterm2/-/blob/master/sources/iTermPreferences.m#L203 https://gitlab.com/gnachman/iterm2/-/blob/master/sources/iTe...
cloverich 2y ago
No, but I might like iterm to have integrated support for various commands, shortcuts, aliases, etc. This is, IMHO, a very natural extension of that. I would prefer even less friction, as for any command I don't know by heart, asking ChatGPT in natural language is the most efficient way to get the commands and arguments I want, usually the very first time. Again IMHO, in the near term future, "great terminal" and "first class LLM support" will go hand in hand for most (but of course, not all) users.

by yareal 2y ago

Would you like iterm to provide Google search results? Should iterm have discord chats or irc channels in it? It's not what I want iterm to do, I want iterm to be a great terminal.

joshstrange 2y ago

Do you use tmux? If not are you appalled that iTerm2 has support for that? What about the other billion config/settings/features of iTerm2 that you choose not to use? iTerm2 is a great terminal. It was great before the update and it’s still great after the update.

infecto 2y ago

Don't assign an api key to it then?

h0l0cube 2y ago

And that it still is, with a new lightweight feature that needn’t bother anyone unless they wish to enable it.

whimsicalism 2y ago

if google results were as effective at generating exactly the command i want, yeah i'd want them to include it as an optional feature

jedberg 2y ago

If there were a way for me to type a question and get just the command line back by searching on Google, yeah, I'd like that too. But that's not how Google works. ChatGPT can give me exactly what I want.

Xelynega 2y ago
That's also not how chatgpt works... And if it were, what's stopping the same filters to be added to google to convert the LLM output(or the google search results) into just the command to execute?
- jedberg 2y ago
  That's exactly how it works, as you can see from the demo video in the post. Because you can tell it to output like that. And sure, Google could add that, but it doesn't have that today.
  - Xelynega 2y ago
    That's still not how chatgpt works. That's how the plugin developed for iTerm2 works, but the actual result from chatgpt needs to be filtered by iTerm2 to get to the result in the demonstration. What's stopping the same filtering from being used on a google search result instead of a response from an LLM API?
    - jedberg 2y ago
      No, that's not how the plugin works. It sends context to ChatGPT telling it to return a single command that is copy/pasteable. The plugin does no filtering of the results. You can literally read the code for yourself: https://gitlab.com/gnachman/iterm2/-/blob/master/sources/iTermPreferences.m#L203 https://gitlab.com/gnachman/iterm2/-/blob/master/sources/iTe...

cloverich 2y ago

No, but I might like iterm to have integrated support for various commands, shortcuts, aliases, etc. This is, IMHO, a very natural extension of that. I would prefer even less friction, as for any command I don't know by heart, asking ChatGPT in natural language is the most efficient way to get the commands and arguments I want, usually the very first time. Again IMHO, in the near term future, "great terminal" and "first class LLM support" will go hand in hand for most (but of course, not all) users.