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"We are introducing Phi Silica which is built from the Phi series of models and is designed specifically for the NPUs in Copilot+ PCs. Windows is the first plat
by Dowwie 2y ago
"We are introducing Phi Silica which is built from the Phi series of models and is designed specifically for the NPUs in Copilot+ PCs. Windows is the first platform to have a state-of-the-art small language model (SLM) custom built for the NPU and shipping inbox. Phi Silica API along with OCR, Studio Effects, Live Captions, Recall User Activity APIs will be available in Windows Copilot Library in June. More APIs like Vector Embedding, RAG API, Text Summarization will be coming later."
2024: the year of personal computers with neural processing units running small language models
How do NPU's work? Who builds them and how are they built? Are they capable of running a variety of SLM-like firmware?
- killingtime74 2y agoFor the price of these new laptops one can already buy a MacBook with a general purpose GPU that is more than capable of running these models. One can buy a windows laptop with a dedicated graphics card that can also run these models. Perhaps it would be interesting if the price was substantially lower.
- TiredOfLife 2y agoThese new laptops are half the price of macbooks with the same ram and storage
- killingtime74 2y agoIn Australia they are the same price ($1.9k AUD vs $1.6k for MacBook air). How much where you're at?
- TiredOfLife 2y agoM3 15" air with 24gb ram and 1tb ssd is 3400 australian dollars
- killingtime74 2y agoDoes the cheapest Microsoft one come with 24 gigs ram and one TB SSD?
- runjake 2y agoIn which configs and which geographic locations? In the US, pricing for equivalent Surface and Mac hardware configurations looks the same, to me. And that's if the Snapdragon X Elite is actually on par with the Apple M3, like Microsoft claims. Earlier X Elite benchmarks[1][2] showed that it was behind the M3, but hopefully Qualcomm have made some solid performance changes since then. Competition is good. 1. https://www.xda-developers.com/snapdragon-x-elite-benchmarks/ https://www.xda-developers.com/snapdragon-x-elite-benchmarks... Note: the link is comparing vs the M2 2. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/early-snapdragon-x-elite-benchmarks-seemingly-confirm-the-chips-incredible-performance-and-battery-life-potential https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/early-snapdr...
- TiredOfLife 2y agoASUS Vivobook S15 S5507QA: 32GB/1TB 1400 EUR MacBook Air 15,3" Apple M3 8-Core CPU & 10-Core GPU 24GB/1TB 2649 €
- runjake 2y ago1. Ah I had assumed you were talking about the new Surface laptops, my bad. 2. Where are you seeing the pricing for those Vivobook configs? I'm not able to pull up equivalent pricing in the US, so far. That might be a pretty good deal, depending on the real world performance of the X Elite and the build quality of the ASUS laptop (I've had quite a few and it's been some great hits and some major misses.)
- TiredOfLife 2y agoThe euro prices were from a leak. But the us price for 15" vivobook 16gb/1tb with elite (from announcement video) is 1299. 15" m3 with 16gb/1tb from apple.com is 1899
- Foobar8568 2y agoAsus, the brand that can't make an ISO keyboard in Europe. Either Surface line or Lenovo x line can be compared with Apple devices, anything else falls short.
- 3abiton 2y agoBut not same performance. One of the reason QC not releasing anything but controlled benchmarks is most likely the subpar performance of Windows on ARM. This will be the biggest hurdle for QC Elite chips, competing with M-seried which is design in tandem with MacOS.
- UncleOxidant 2y agoIsn't the unified memory architecture one of the advantages of the Apple M* notebooks for running AI workloads?
- adastra22 2y agoSpeculation.
- 3abiton 2y agoMore like not totally baseless rumors. https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/qualcomm-faces-benchmark-cheating-allegations-snapdragon-x-eliteplus-benchmarks-claimed-to-be-fraudulent https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/qualcomm-faces-be...
- dhruvdh 2y agoThe NPU runs this Silica model at 1.5 watts. MacBooks cannot even drive multiple monitors in this price range.