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I love iTerm2. It has a gazillion features, most of which I don't want and never use (but I love the small subset I do use). I saw the new AI stuff on the relea

I love iTerm2. It has a gazillion features, most of which I don't want and never use (but I love the small subset I do use). I saw the new AI stuff on the release notes, thought, "ugh, lame, I'll never use that", and moved on with my day.

adamomada 2y ago
iTerm2 is so good, it’s worth using macOS just for the crazy good terminal. I love the quake term hotkey access and while I’m sure other terminals can easily do it too, I think it might have been the first?
- vundercind 2y ago
  Terminal.app, even, is no slouch among terminal programs. Uncommonly-great input latency, for one thing.
  - c-hendricks 2y ago
    I think the only thing keeping me on iterm is terminal.app's lack of a way to easily disable mouse integration. If you're using a TUI that works with the mouse but need to select some text, in iterm you hold Option and can select. In Terminal.app you need to use the menu to turn mouse handling off, select your text, then turn it back on.
    - vundercind 2y ago
      Yeah, Terminal.app isn’t necessarily better than iterm2, depending on what you need out of your terminal emulator. The latter’s got more features, for sure. The Mac platform’s just blessed with two way-above-average terminal emulators, one installed by default, is all I mean.
- cromka 2y ago
  I believe Yakuake/Kuake for KDE first introduced it some 20 or so years ago. I’ve been using it since its early days on Linux. EDIT: looks like someone even investigated that: https://babbagefiles.xyz/quake-drop-down-terminal-history/ https://babbagefiles.xyz/quake-drop-down-terminal-history/
andy99 2y ago
I use iterm2 as a default and haven't given it any thought or looked into to it. But "AI powered" very often implies spying on you and sending home everything it can which has me a bit concerned. Is this true or likely to become true of iterm2? Edit: looking around the thread and at other conversations like https://gitlab.com/gnachman/iterm2/-/issues/11475 https://gitlab.com/gnachman/iterm2/-/issues/11475 it's not just me with this concern
- kstrauser 2y ago
  It is not true today. It seems highly unlikely to become true.
labster 2y ago
Move on with your day? How could you move on with your day when someone was wrong? Wrong on the internet!
abnercoimbre 2y ago
Plug: This entire thread really doubles my motivation to get Terminal Click [0] out the door even sooner. I'm an indie dev who wants to sell an offline binary for the equivalent of a night out at the movies, probably cheaper. Feeling a bit like a dying breed. [0] https://terminal.click https://terminal.click
- paulmd 2y ago
  if the concern is that iterm2 can’t get through a finance industry audit anymore, why would anyone install a shell (ie extremely privileged software) from some rando? What’s your plan for providing security audits and ongoing patching and updates to a PCI level compliance and who does your certifications? What are the odds that this isn’t a ghost repo in 5 years let alone 25?
  - abnercoimbre 2y ago
    I'm not a rando [0]. Also, Terminal Click is an experimental project. We'll see where it lands. [0] https://handmadecities.com/about https://handmadecities.com/about

adamomada 2y ago

iTerm2 is so good, it’s worth using macOS just for the crazy good terminal. I love the quake term hotkey access and while I’m sure other terminals can easily do it too, I think it might have been the first?

vundercind 2y ago
Terminal.app, even, is no slouch among terminal programs. Uncommonly-great input latency, for one thing.
- c-hendricks 2y ago
  I think the only thing keeping me on iterm is terminal.app's lack of a way to easily disable mouse integration. If you're using a TUI that works with the mouse but need to select some text, in iterm you hold Option and can select. In Terminal.app you need to use the menu to turn mouse handling off, select your text, then turn it back on.
  - vundercind 2y ago
    Yeah, Terminal.app isn’t necessarily better than iterm2, depending on what you need out of your terminal emulator. The latter’s got more features, for sure. The Mac platform’s just blessed with two way-above-average terminal emulators, one installed by default, is all I mean.
cromka 2y ago
I believe Yakuake/Kuake for KDE first introduced it some 20 or so years ago. I’ve been using it since its early days on Linux. EDIT: looks like someone even investigated that: https://babbagefiles.xyz/quake-drop-down-terminal-history/ https://babbagefiles.xyz/quake-drop-down-terminal-history/

andy99 2y ago

I use iterm2 as a default and haven't given it any thought or looked into to it. But "AI powered" very often implies spying on you and sending home everything it can which has me a bit concerned. Is this true or likely to become true of iterm2? Edit: looking around the thread and at other conversations like https://gitlab.com/gnachman/iterm2/-/issues/11475 https://gitlab.com/gnachman/iterm2/-/issues/11475 it's not just me with this concern

kstrauser 2y ago
It is not true today. It seems highly unlikely to become true.

labster 2y ago

Move on with your day? How could you move on with your day when someone was wrong? Wrong on the internet!

abnercoimbre 2y ago

Plug: This entire thread really doubles my motivation to get Terminal Click [0] out the door even sooner. I'm an indie dev who wants to sell an offline binary for the equivalent of a night out at the movies, probably cheaper. Feeling a bit like a dying breed. [0] https://terminal.click https://terminal.click

paulmd 2y ago
if the concern is that iterm2 can’t get through a finance industry audit anymore, why would anyone install a shell (ie extremely privileged software) from some rando? What’s your plan for providing security audits and ongoing patching and updates to a PCI level compliance and who does your certifications? What are the odds that this isn’t a ghost repo in 5 years let alone 25?
- abnercoimbre 2y ago
  I'm not a rando [0]. Also, Terminal Click is an experimental project. We'll see where it lands. [0] https://handmadecities.com/about https://handmadecities.com/about