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Because I don’t want my residential location moves being tracked, as the person who goes from zip code A to zip code B to zip code C is possibly a unique track.
by sneak 2y ago
Because I don’t want my residential location moves being tracked, as the person who goes from zip code A to zip code B to zip code C is possibly a unique track.
I don’t use much bluetooth at home. Zigbee is becoming an issue, but I haven’t moved since I’ve set it up.
- lotsofpulp 2y agoIn the US, I would assume your employer (via payroll or “work number”, or your banks/credit cards/credit reporting agencies, or even retailers like Amazon or Walmart are selling that information. Or the USPS when you let them know where to forward your mail to after you move: https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/07/08/how-the-post-office-sells-your-new-address-with-anyone-who-pays-and-the-little-known-loophole-to-opt-out/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/07/08/how-the-p... Edit: and of course, as kstrauser points out, voter registration records.
- sneak 2y agoNone of those organizations ever receive my primary residential address, only my tertiary one. Fortunately in the US you are allowed to have more than one home. Absolutely nothing with my name on it goes to where I usually sleep. To divulge sensitive information like that is actively unsafe for certain types of people, because, as you note, almost every single vendor with whom you do business will blast it out all over the ecosystem until it shows up on SEO spam websites forever.
- kstrauser 2y agoThere are much easier ways to track authoritative details about a person's moves, e.g. voter registration.
- kube-system 2y agoOr through any of the data being sold by companies who send someone mail.
- DANmode 2y agoHackers often do not vote.
- kstrauser 2y agoUnless they legally can't, say because of a felony conviction, that seems highly unusual.
- DANmode 2y agoIt really depends on how much data one wants to create. What one is optimizing for. I've come across some folks pretty committed to staying "effectively off-grid" - even today.
- DANmode 2y agoSeparately (assuming US): would you actually find it surprising there would exist a subset of hackers unimpressed with the R and D parade to the point that they abstain?
- kstrauser 2y agoSurprised, no, because I've known plenty of ahem security researchers who were contrarian just for the sake of it.
- sneak 2y agoA third of the US population doesn’t vote. It’s not even normal unusual, it’s common.
- sneak 2y agoI don’t register to vote or receive any mail at my primary residence. My government paperwork all goes to my tertiary residence. Do you really think someone who is changing their BSSIDs when they move is putting the address at which they regularly sleep unguarded into public records?
- ssl-3 2y agoIt only takes takes one Bluetooth device sitting there and shouting its name to track a move, if that's what a person wants to focus on doing. Most of the Bluetooth devices that I am able to identify are things like televisions. When a Samsung TV moves, it's pretty likely that the people who own that TV have moved along with it.
- cchance 2y agoYou realize your residential record of location is... public, you can get it pretty easily from most records offices.
- DANmode 2y agoLandlords that take cash still exist. So I'm told.
- sneak 2y agoThis isn’t true. Only one residential record of location is. I have three. I sleep at the one on my driver’s license only a few nights per year. Some vanlife types use a post box, which is also legal. It would be actively dangerous for people like me if we were forced to regularly sleep in a location available to the general public.
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