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> direct control over the content shown to users How is the Chinese government's control over TikTok content any more "direct" than the US government's control

> direct control over the content shown to users How is the Chinese government's control over TikTok content any more "direct" than the US government's control over Facebook content?

__MatrixMan__ 2y ago
The difference is that it's the US government that's doing the banning.
erehweb 2y ago
The Chinese government could order TikTok to downrank / not show content that criticizes the CCP. The US government could not order FB to downrank content that criticizes the Democrats.
- bjourne 2y ago
  What's stopping the US government from doing exactly that? Btw, a court order is not very "direct". Easier to have your buddy call his buddy who happens to be the ceo of Facebook...
- advisedwang 2y ago
  Is there any evidence that the Chinese government has done that? No. As for the US, we have documented evidence of US corporations cooperating with the US government for spying and propaganda efforts.
- pphysch 2y ago
  What was the whole "Hunter Biden laptop" debacle about if not precisely this?
stewx 2y ago
ByteDance is headquartered in China, a repressive country where they throw you in prison or worse if you don't obey the government. If the Communist Party told them to meddle with the algorithm to the advantage of China and harm of the USA, for example, they would have to obey, or else suffer the consequences.
- pessimizer 2y ago
  > China, a repressive country where they throw you in prison or worse if you don't obey the government. The US has 4x as many prisoners per capita than China, and Assange is still in captivity.
  - dole 2y ago
    Can we count "students" at "vocational education and training centers?"
throwitaway222 2y ago
Modern war can be as simple as advocating principals that weaken another country over a long period of time. Let that sink in. (not in a musk way)
s1artibartfast 2y ago
Its not. Its basically the same, and that is why China has the great firewall and facebook is banned.

> direct control over the content shown to users How is the Chinese government's control over TikTok content any more "direct" than the US government's control over Facebook content?

__MatrixMan__ 2y ago

The difference is that it's the US government that's doing the banning.

erehweb 2y ago

The Chinese government could order TikTok to downrank / not show content that criticizes the CCP. The US government could not order FB to downrank content that criticizes the Democrats.

bjourne 2y ago
What's stopping the US government from doing exactly that? Btw, a court order is not very "direct". Easier to have your buddy call his buddy who happens to be the ceo of Facebook...
advisedwang 2y ago
Is there any evidence that the Chinese government has done that? No. As for the US, we have documented evidence of US corporations cooperating with the US government for spying and propaganda efforts.
pphysch 2y ago
What was the whole "Hunter Biden laptop" debacle about if not precisely this?

stewx 2y ago

ByteDance is headquartered in China, a repressive country where they throw you in prison or worse if you don't obey the government. If the Communist Party told them to meddle with the algorithm to the advantage of China and harm of the USA, for example, they would have to obey, or else suffer the consequences.

pessimizer 2y ago
> China, a repressive country where they throw you in prison or worse if you don't obey the government. The US has 4x as many prisoners per capita than China, and Assange is still in captivity.
- dole 2y ago
  Can we count "students" at "vocational education and training centers?"

throwitaway222 2y ago

Modern war can be as simple as advocating principals that weaken another country over a long period of time. Let that sink in. (not in a musk way)

s1artibartfast 2y ago

Its not. Its basically the same, and that is why China has the great firewall and facebook is banned.