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Yes, I know snark is discouraged, but any time I hear this sort of plutocrat apologia, I want to respond, "oh yeah, why won't someone think of those poor, poor

Yes, I know snark is discouraged, but any time I hear this sort of plutocrat apologia, I want to respond, "oh yeah, why won't someone think of those poor, poor rich people with their million dollar windfalls". I always suspect a bit of astroturfing, but it's entirely possible that the propaganda has been internalized by those repeating it. But to them I say that if there's anyone in society you don't need to worry about, it's the rich (and anyone who's looking at a one mil windfall is going to be rich); they're going to be just fine.

hedora 2y ago
It’s “windfall”, singular. In a sibling comment, I explained what the situation looks like for that group out here in California (hint: people paying these taxes can’t necessarily afford a house).
- silverquiet 2y ago
  The top ten percent of people in the richest state in the richest country in the world are in fact rich. I'm sure they have their own status games they play that make them feel inferior to one another (what other point is there to such games?), and yes, they are small fish compared to actual plutocrats, but I assure you that they will find some way to make things work, just like the people who live off fractions of their income do.
  - hedora 2y ago
    These taxes reach far below the 90th percentile line here. Also, money is not worth the same amount here as it is in other states. You may as well be comparing British Pounds and US Dollars without applying an exchange rate (except that the gap between the dollar and pound is currently smaller than the gap between US dollar in California, and, say, Arizona).
    - silverquiet 2y ago
      > money is not worth the same amount here as it is in other states One of the problems of wealth no doubt, but I am still bereft of tears for them. Imagine trying to make due with the merely the median household income in such a rich state, and not even getting the odd million dollar windfall once in awhile. And then realize that half of households must make due with less than that.
    - phone8675309 2y ago
      The people who live in CA and are in the 90th percentile are making more money to compensate for it being a high cost of living area, so it all comes out in the wash.
    - jncfhnb 2y ago
      An income of 1,000,000 is well above the 99th percentile of household income in California.

hedora 2y ago

It’s “windfall”, singular. In a sibling comment, I explained what the situation looks like for that group out here in California (hint: people paying these taxes can’t necessarily afford a house).

silverquiet 2y ago
The top ten percent of people in the richest state in the richest country in the world are in fact rich. I'm sure they have their own status games they play that make them feel inferior to one another (what other point is there to such games?), and yes, they are small fish compared to actual plutocrats, but I assure you that they will find some way to make things work, just like the people who live off fractions of their income do.
- hedora 2y ago
  These taxes reach far below the 90th percentile line here. Also, money is not worth the same amount here as it is in other states. You may as well be comparing British Pounds and US Dollars without applying an exchange rate (except that the gap between the dollar and pound is currently smaller than the gap between US dollar in California, and, say, Arizona).
  - silverquiet 2y ago
    > money is not worth the same amount here as it is in other states One of the problems of wealth no doubt, but I am still bereft of tears for them. Imagine trying to make due with the merely the median household income in such a rich state, and not even getting the odd million dollar windfall once in awhile. And then realize that half of households must make due with less than that.
  - phone8675309 2y ago
    The people who live in CA and are in the 90th percentile are making more money to compensate for it being a high cost of living area, so it all comes out in the wash.
  - jncfhnb 2y ago
    An income of 1,000,000 is well above the 99th percentile of household income in California.