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How do you even cross a road with that approach to risk?

PaulRobinson 2y ago
By looking both ways and therefore mitigating the risk through reducing the likelihood of being killed while crossing the road by oncoming traffic. The risk mitigation technique for dealing with severe turbulence which frequently injures people, and only rarely kills people (thankfully), is to keep your seatbelt loosely fastened, and get out of your seat only when you need to. The fact this is considered absurd by some replies here is a fascinating insight, TBH.
- poszlem 2y ago
  Do you compare the risk of sitting still during a long-haul flight and possibly developing a DVT to the risk of being killed by turbulence? I would argue that moving around on the plane actually reduces your chance of dying, as it lowers the very real risk of a DVT-related stroke or pulmonary embolism while keeping the risk of dying in strong turbulence still extremely low.
  - onlyonhn2 2y ago
    The sad thing is, sods law, whilst having a good chit chat at the bar on say a380 biz and doing about couples bottles of nice wine, or heck even in cattle in the area in front of emergency exits on wide bodies with fellow passenger consuming a few cans of beer (not sure if that works in US - definitely fine on Emirates, SG, Qatar and Etihad) pretending to stretch legs for a good hour, if there is any turbulence I'm probably going land on this guy's head, if he got up and moved about he probably would of survived. Not sure how you quantify that risk. Again, realistically, it so remotely low that any inconvenience isn't worth considering. Partially joking here, partially not.... Just ridiculous to worry about this remote chance to point of strapping yourself in for 10hrs+ and not moving
  - Johnythree 2y ago
    There are simple exercises that you can do while seated to avoid DVT. Just wriggling your toes help a lot, or flexing the muscles in your legs. I fly a lot on routes over the tropics and have experienced serious turbulence multiple times. There's no way I will be wandering around the cabin unnecessarily.
- ryandrake 2y ago
  > The fact this is considered absurd by some replies here is a fascinating insight, TBH. I always thought there were relatively few people with this mentality, that a simple and trivial precaution is totally unacceptable and infringes on their entire life. Then COVID hit and we all saw just how many people would not even lift a pinky finger to help mitigate risk for themselves and others. I don't understand it, either. Do y'all just go out and jump off cliffs every day because you're free to do it?
master-lincoln 2y ago
I think this is not a fair comparison. When crossing a road one has more input to judge the risk by looking in both directions, seeing potentially oncoming cars and estimating their speed. In the plane you have no way as a passenger to know when it's more or less likely that turbulences are flown through or how heavy they would be.

By looking both ways and therefore mitigating the risk through reducing the likelihood of being killed while crossing the road by oncoming traffic. The risk mitigation technique for dealing with severe turbulence which frequently injures people, and only rarely kills people (thankfully), is to keep your seatbelt loosely fastened, and get out of your seat only when you need to. The fact this is considered absurd by some replies here is a fascinating insight, TBH.

poszlem 2y ago
Do you compare the risk of sitting still during a long-haul flight and possibly developing a DVT to the risk of being killed by turbulence? I would argue that moving around on the plane actually reduces your chance of dying, as it lowers the very real risk of a DVT-related stroke or pulmonary embolism while keeping the risk of dying in strong turbulence still extremely low.
- onlyonhn2 2y ago
  The sad thing is, sods law, whilst having a good chit chat at the bar on say a380 biz and doing about couples bottles of nice wine, or heck even in cattle in the area in front of emergency exits on wide bodies with fellow passenger consuming a few cans of beer (not sure if that works in US - definitely fine on Emirates, SG, Qatar and Etihad) pretending to stretch legs for a good hour, if there is any turbulence I'm probably going land on this guy's head, if he got up and moved about he probably would of survived. Not sure how you quantify that risk. Again, realistically, it so remotely low that any inconvenience isn't worth considering. Partially joking here, partially not.... Just ridiculous to worry about this remote chance to point of strapping yourself in for 10hrs+ and not moving
- Johnythree 2y ago
  There are simple exercises that you can do while seated to avoid DVT. Just wriggling your toes help a lot, or flexing the muscles in your legs. I fly a lot on routes over the tropics and have experienced serious turbulence multiple times. There's no way I will be wandering around the cabin unnecessarily.
ryandrake 2y ago
> The fact this is considered absurd by some replies here is a fascinating insight, TBH. I always thought there were relatively few people with this mentality, that a simple and trivial precaution is totally unacceptable and infringes on their entire life. Then COVID hit and we all saw just how many people would not even lift a pinky finger to help mitigate risk for themselves and others. I don't understand it, either. Do y'all just go out and jump off cliffs every day because you're free to do it?

master-lincoln 2y ago

I think this is not a fair comparison. When crossing a road one has more input to judge the risk by looking in both directions, seeing potentially oncoming cars and estimating their speed. In the plane you have no way as a passenger to know when it's more or less likely that turbulences are flown through or how heavy they would be.