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Sam Altman is a shameless weasel. Guy has no sense of decency. He got caught redhanded a few times already, what does it takes to unseat him? And whoever defend

Sam Altman is a shameless weasel. Guy has no sense of decency. He got caught redhanded a few times already, what does it takes to unseat him? And whoever defends Altman for their love of ChatGPT, it wasn’t Altman who was behind it, it was a large team that is now dissipating away. Altman just wants to enrich himself at your expense

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> it wasn’t Altman who was behind it, it was a large team that is now dissipating away Credit where it is due: he corralled and inspired a difficult team. He oversaw the release of ChatGPT. His team wanted him back, because they believed he would make them rich. On that promise, he delivered. Nobody has committed high crimes in this saga. But the lying has become endemic, from Altman to the culture. The situation screams for oversight, perhaps—most proximately—via consent decree.
- meigwilym 2y ago
  > Nobody has committed high crimes in this saga. But the lying has become endemic This is why honesty is valued. If you look and sound squeaky clean, it's likely that you are honest and trustworthy. If you blatantly steal a famous actress' voice then lie about it, what else will you steal?
  - lazide 2y ago
    The part you’re missing (IMO) is that he’s in that position because folks want him to ‘steal’ for their benefit, and are overlooking that he is likely going to steal to their detriment too. It’s behind the ‘you can’t con an honest man’ thing.
baq 2y ago
> Altman just wants to enrich himself at your expense This is were you're very unfortunately missing the point that no, he doesn't, he is after something bigger.
- legutierr 2y ago
  Ok, what is it that he is after?
  - baq 2y ago
    good question! I don't really know, but you can tell it isn't money; he admitted that himself anyway and reportedly he has no equity in openai[0]. my optimistic hypothesis is he really wants to control AGI because he believes he can make a more efficient use of it than other people. he might even be right and that's what scares me, because I don't trust his measures of efficiency. I'd rather not let my pessimistic fantasies run wild here. [0] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/24/openai-ceo-sam-altman-didnt-take-any-equity-in-the-company-semafor.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/24/openai-ceo-sam-altman-didnt-...
    - MVissers 2y ago
      He’s so power hungry it’s kinda crazy. He’s also extremely effective at it, like a real machiavelli. PG said the same- Never has he seen someone which such a capability to gain power.
      - pseudalopex 2y ago
        > PG said the same- Never has he seen someone which such a capability to gain power. He said Altman is extremely good at becoming powerful.[1] Did he say what you said also? [1] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/sam-altmans-manifest-destiny https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/sam-altmans-ma...
    - drcongo 2y ago
      "Proven liar promises he's not in it for the money" doesn't seem like a very good refutation.
    - gcanyon 2y ago
      It's going to be bitterly ironic when it turns out that it's not the AI, but some crazy human that wants to turn everyone/thing else into paperclips.
jacknews 2y ago
"shameless weasel" lol
pyb 2y ago
> it was a large team A lot of people want to take credit for it, but wasn't it started by a guy called Alec Radford ?

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> it wasn’t Altman who was behind it, it was a large team that is now dissipating away Credit where it is due: he corralled and inspired a difficult team. He oversaw the release of ChatGPT. His team wanted him back, because they believed he would make them rich. On that promise, he delivered. Nobody has committed high crimes in this saga. But the lying has become endemic, from Altman to the culture. The situation screams for oversight, perhaps—most proximately—via consent decree.

meigwilym 2y ago
> Nobody has committed high crimes in this saga. But the lying has become endemic This is why honesty is valued. If you look and sound squeaky clean, it's likely that you are honest and trustworthy. If you blatantly steal a famous actress' voice then lie about it, what else will you steal?
- lazide 2y ago
  The part you’re missing (IMO) is that he’s in that position because folks want him to ‘steal’ for their benefit, and are overlooking that he is likely going to steal to their detriment too. It’s behind the ‘you can’t con an honest man’ thing.

baq 2y ago

> Altman just wants to enrich himself at your expense This is were you're very unfortunately missing the point that no, he doesn't, he is after something bigger.

legutierr 2y ago
Ok, what is it that he is after?
- baq 2y ago
  good question! I don't really know, but you can tell it isn't money; he admitted that himself anyway and reportedly he has no equity in openai[0]. my optimistic hypothesis is he really wants to control AGI because he believes he can make a more efficient use of it than other people. he might even be right and that's what scares me, because I don't trust his measures of efficiency. I'd rather not let my pessimistic fantasies run wild here. [0] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/24/openai-ceo-sam-altman-didnt-take-any-equity-in-the-company-semafor.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/24/openai-ceo-sam-altman-didnt-...
  - MVissers 2y ago
    He’s so power hungry it’s kinda crazy. He’s also extremely effective at it, like a real machiavelli. PG said the same- Never has he seen someone which such a capability to gain power.
    - pseudalopex 2y ago
      > PG said the same- Never has he seen someone which such a capability to gain power. He said Altman is extremely good at becoming powerful.[1] Did he say what you said also? [1] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/sam-altmans-manifest-destiny https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/sam-altmans-ma...
  - drcongo 2y ago
    "Proven liar promises he's not in it for the money" doesn't seem like a very good refutation.
  - gcanyon 2y ago
    It's going to be bitterly ironic when it turns out that it's not the AI, but some crazy human that wants to turn everyone/thing else into paperclips.

jacknews 2y ago

"shameless weasel" lol

pyb 2y ago

> it was a large team A lot of people want to take credit for it, but wasn't it started by a guy called Alec Radford ?