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We aren't a community. Please stop this constant attempt to create tribes and then (presumably) become the tribe's representative. We are individuals with diffe

We aren't a community. Please stop this constant attempt to create tribes and then (presumably) become the tribe's representative. We are individuals with different opinions. The individuals on HN are more amenable to reason than the average discussion; persuade them into a way of thinking.

MrSkelter 2y ago
Spoken like a housecat who thinks it’s a Tiger.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> We aren't a community Of course we are. That doesn’t coerce anyone into a groupthink, and it doesn’t mean everyone is a part of it. I’m simply asking anyone who held one opinion to find harmonics with another.
- mlrtime 2y ago
  We aren't a group-think echo chamber. The original message stands, Most of us are open to changing our mind given the correct information. I read HN 10x more than reddit just because of this fact.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > We aren't a group-think echo chamber Why do you equate acknowledging a community with group think?
tifik 2y ago
HN def is a community, in some sense of the word, but I also dont like the phrasing and emphasis on "we" having done something or we having a problem and whatnot. HN promotes debate and individual opinions, so statements like in parent just have bad connotations to them.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > dont like the phrasing and emphasis on "we" having done something Fair enough. I cited two we’s. In the first—where “we, as a community, have been critical of crypto”—I juxtapose this community at large’s scepticism of crypto with its giving the benefit of doubt to people similar to crypto’s worst in AI. In the second—where “we have a wider problem”—I intended to reference Silicon Valley at large. I did not intend to imply that Sam Altman is HN’s problem to solve. (Though I welcome the help, if you have sway in D.C. or your state capital. I am not sure I have the bandwidth to take on a political project of this magnitude.)
  - aleph_minus_one 2y ago
    > I did not intend to imply that Sam Altman is HN’s problem to solve. In consideration that Sam Altman was the former president of YCombinator, and Hacker News is financed by this company, it would be true hacker spirit (as in Hacker News) to subvertingly use Hacker News to "solve" the Sam Altman problem. :-D
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 2y ago
  That use of "we" has been extremely common on HN. Fantastic to see someone calling it out as BS. End users who are not "developers"/"tech bros" who read HN cannot possibly be part of this imaginary "we".
wordofx 2y ago
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ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago
I feel as if this is a community. I certainly participate in it, as if it was, and that I have certain personal Responsibilities, as a member of that community. That does not mean that everyone is on the same page, though. Probably the only thing everyone agrees on, is that this is a valuable personal resource. If this was groupthink, I'd go somewhere else. BTDT. Got the T-shirt.
johnnyanmac 2y ago
We are definitely a community. Sadly, "community" has little meaning in he modern day compared to 30+ years ago. I'm in a neighborhood but I don't feel a sense of "community" with most of them. I have a job but don't have a sense of "community" with most of my coworkers. The world's a lot lonlier these days.

MrSkelter 2y ago

Spoken like a housecat who thinks it’s a Tiger.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> We aren't a community Of course we are. That doesn’t coerce anyone into a groupthink, and it doesn’t mean everyone is a part of it. I’m simply asking anyone who held one opinion to find harmonics with another.

mlrtime 2y ago
We aren't a group-think echo chamber. The original message stands, Most of us are open to changing our mind given the correct information. I read HN 10x more than reddit just because of this fact.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > We aren't a group-think echo chamber Why do you equate acknowledging a community with group think?

tifik 2y ago

HN def is a community, in some sense of the word, but I also dont like the phrasing and emphasis on "we" having done something or we having a problem and whatnot. HN promotes debate and individual opinions, so statements like in parent just have bad connotations to them.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> dont like the phrasing and emphasis on "we" having done something Fair enough. I cited two we’s. In the first—where “we, as a community, have been critical of crypto”—I juxtapose this community at large’s scepticism of crypto with its giving the benefit of doubt to people similar to crypto’s worst in AI. In the second—where “we have a wider problem”—I intended to reference Silicon Valley at large. I did not intend to imply that Sam Altman is HN’s problem to solve. (Though I welcome the help, if you have sway in D.C. or your state capital. I am not sure I have the bandwidth to take on a political project of this magnitude.)
- aleph_minus_one 2y ago
  > I did not intend to imply that Sam Altman is HN’s problem to solve. In consideration that Sam Altman was the former president of YCombinator, and Hacker News is financed by this company, it would be true hacker spirit (as in Hacker News) to subvertingly use Hacker News to "solve" the Sam Altman problem. :-D
1vuio0pswjnm7 2y ago
That use of "we" has been extremely common on HN. Fantastic to see someone calling it out as BS. End users who are not "developers"/"tech bros" who read HN cannot possibly be part of this imaginary "we".

wordofx 2y ago

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ChrisMarshallNY 2y ago

I feel as if this is a community. I certainly participate in it, as if it was, and that I have certain personal Responsibilities, as a member of that community. That does not mean that everyone is on the same page, though. Probably the only thing everyone agrees on, is that this is a valuable personal resource. If this was groupthink, I'd go somewhere else. BTDT. Got the T-shirt.

johnnyanmac 2y ago

We are definitely a community. Sadly, "community" has little meaning in he modern day compared to 30+ years ago. I'm in a neighborhood but I don't feel a sense of "community" with most of them. I have a job but don't have a sense of "community" with most of my coworkers. The world's a lot lonlier these days.