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FUD? The details so far suggest Recall will run locally, offline. The demo vid showed that you can select apps not be indexed in Recall… so, not “everything”

t-writescode 2y ago
Where do you see that the details suggest it will run locally, "offline"? From the article: > Microsoft promises to protect users’ privacy by giving them the option to filter out what they don’t want tracked. This line here suggests that you can opt out of specific tracking, but says __nothing__ about where the model will be stored, trained, etc.
- sseagull 2y ago
  It was in the presentation. Starting at 17:00 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/event https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/event “We leverage the power of the NPU to ensure content stays on your device, which makes the experience fast and maintains your privacy” Now whether you believe that or not is another matter. But that is the claim at least
  - jerf 2y ago
    It has to be true today. They couldn't afford to run that on their own servers. As big and popular as the cloud may be it is still utterly dwarfed by the amount of computation power available in the not-cloud. What happens in 10 years, now, I make no claim.
maven29 2y ago
>As you might imagine, all this snapshot recording comes at a hardware penalty. To use Recall, users will need to purchase one of the new "Copilot Plus PCs" powered by Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite chips, which include the necessary neural processing unit (NPU). There are also minimum storage requirements for running Recall, with a minimum of 256GB of hard drive space and 50GB of available space. The default allocation for Recall on a 256GB device is 25GB, which can store approximately three months of snapshots. Users can adjust the allocation in their PC settings, with old snapshots being deleted once the allocated storage is full. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/microsofts-new-recall-feature-will-record-everything-you-do-on-your-pc/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/microsofts-new-recal...
- lozenge 2y ago
  It doesn't say it's all local . Maybe the NPU is deciding which screenshots to keep, what regions to OCR or use image recognition.
- wkat4242 2y ago
  Will it really fully run on that NPU or will it offload some tasks to the cloud?

t-writescode 2y ago

Where do you see that the details suggest it will run locally, "offline"? From the article: > Microsoft promises to protect users’ privacy by giving them the option to filter out what they don’t want tracked. This line here suggests that you can opt out of specific tracking, but says __nothing__ about where the model will be stored, trained, etc.

sseagull 2y ago
It was in the presentation. Starting at 17:00 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/event https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/event “We leverage the power of the NPU to ensure content stays on your device, which makes the experience fast and maintains your privacy” Now whether you believe that or not is another matter. But that is the claim at least
- jerf 2y ago
  It has to be true today. They couldn't afford to run that on their own servers. As big and popular as the cloud may be it is still utterly dwarfed by the amount of computation power available in the not-cloud. What happens in 10 years, now, I make no claim.

maven29 2y ago

>As you might imagine, all this snapshot recording comes at a hardware penalty. To use Recall, users will need to purchase one of the new "Copilot Plus PCs" powered by Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite chips, which include the necessary neural processing unit (NPU). There are also minimum storage requirements for running Recall, with a minimum of 256GB of hard drive space and 50GB of available space. The default allocation for Recall on a 256GB device is 25GB, which can store approximately three months of snapshots. Users can adjust the allocation in their PC settings, with old snapshots being deleted once the allocated storage is full. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/microsofts-new-recall-feature-will-record-everything-you-do-on-your-pc/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/microsofts-new-recal...

lozenge 2y ago
It doesn't say it's all local . Maybe the NPU is deciding which screenshots to keep, what regions to OCR or use image recognition.
wkat4242 2y ago
Will it really fully run on that NPU or will it offload some tasks to the cloud?