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I think majority agrees that we're ok with a few millionaire priviledge actors losing small amount of their value in favor of personal AI assistants for general

I think majority agrees that we're ok with a few millionaire priviledge actors losing small amount of their value in favor of personal AI assistants for general populace. How is that even a topic worth discussing is trully perplexing.

krainboltgreene 2y ago
No man, a majority do not believe that and it's really weird that you think they do.
- wraptile 2y ago
  Why? The data clearly points that nobody will go out of their way to protect IP laws. In majority of the world nobody could care less about some hollywood actor with tough to spell name getting their voice cloned. It's really weird that someone would think that IP law is more important than access to information. Must be some dystopian bubble.
  - krainboltgreene 2y ago
    Just because companies are violating people's artistic ownership and the State isn't punishing or preventing it fast enough is not an indication that a majority of people "could care less". If anything you can see the fomenting dislike with OpenAI right in front of you. You can frame it however you like to make it justifiable, but I'm not going to get into the mud with you.
    - wraptile 2y ago
      You're building a strawman here. The topic is whether information access is more important in our society than IP protection and the answer is big yes no matter how you look at it and I don't see you ever winning this argument. Take care o/
      - krainboltgreene 2y ago
        That's not the topic, that's the topic you want to debate.
mepiethree 2y ago
I don’t know a single person who has ever mentioned wanting an AI assistant, and I know a lot of people who are creeped out by the idea. I live in a swing state and work for a big tech company but most of my friends aren’t in tech. So I’m not sure that a “majority agrees” about anything related to an AI assistant
- wraptile 2y ago
  Yet every single person uses an AI assistant every day when they Google something or ask their phone for who performs the song that's playing in the background. You must know some of these people?
  - mepiethree 2y ago
    I don’t think that I would call every AI feature an AI Assistant, but sure, if that’s how you define “AI Assistant,” then you’re correct that I do in fact know people who use/want one. But I think that Google+AI or a music player is a pretty different product experience/design/market fit than a “personal AI Assistant” like an AI-powered Siri or Alexa or Google Assistant. I don’t know anyone who uses (or wants to use) the latter group for anything other than “Alexa, play XYZ”, or “Siri, set an alarm” which I wouldn’t really call GPT-4-level AI
    - wraptile 2y ago
      Just because LLMs only really existed for a year now and it's still the fastest adopted new tech we ever had. Even iphone took longer to adopt. It'll take time for LLMs to lodge into direct use and thus the move to voice chat by openAI but every single person is already full in AI game from photo editing, to content curation - AI assists us everywhere already. The leap between that and texting to an AI friend is extremely tiny.

krainboltgreene 2y ago

No man, a majority do not believe that and it's really weird that you think they do.

wraptile 2y ago
Why? The data clearly points that nobody will go out of their way to protect IP laws. In majority of the world nobody could care less about some hollywood actor with tough to spell name getting their voice cloned. It's really weird that someone would think that IP law is more important than access to information. Must be some dystopian bubble.
- krainboltgreene 2y ago
  Just because companies are violating people's artistic ownership and the State isn't punishing or preventing it fast enough is not an indication that a majority of people "could care less". If anything you can see the fomenting dislike with OpenAI right in front of you. You can frame it however you like to make it justifiable, but I'm not going to get into the mud with you.
  - wraptile 2y ago
    You're building a strawman here. The topic is whether information access is more important in our society than IP protection and the answer is big yes no matter how you look at it and I don't see you ever winning this argument. Take care o/
    - krainboltgreene 2y ago
      That's not the topic, that's the topic you want to debate.

mepiethree 2y ago

I don’t know a single person who has ever mentioned wanting an AI assistant, and I know a lot of people who are creeped out by the idea. I live in a swing state and work for a big tech company but most of my friends aren’t in tech. So I’m not sure that a “majority agrees” about anything related to an AI assistant

wraptile 2y ago
Yet every single person uses an AI assistant every day when they Google something or ask their phone for who performs the song that's playing in the background. You must know some of these people?
- mepiethree 2y ago
  I don’t think that I would call every AI feature an AI Assistant, but sure, if that’s how you define “AI Assistant,” then you’re correct that I do in fact know people who use/want one. But I think that Google+AI or a music player is a pretty different product experience/design/market fit than a “personal AI Assistant” like an AI-powered Siri or Alexa or Google Assistant. I don’t know anyone who uses (or wants to use) the latter group for anything other than “Alexa, play XYZ”, or “Siri, set an alarm” which I wouldn’t really call GPT-4-level AI
  - wraptile 2y ago
    Just because LLMs only really existed for a year now and it's still the fastest adopted new tech we ever had. Even iphone took longer to adopt. It'll take time for LLMs to lodge into direct use and thus the move to voice chat by openAI but every single person is already full in AI game from photo editing, to content curation - AI assists us everywhere already. The leap between that and texting to an AI friend is extremely tiny.