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Isn't OpenAI mostly built upon disregarding the copyright of countless people? And hasn't OpenAI recently shown that they can pull off a commercial coup d'état
by neilv 2y ago
Isn't OpenAI mostly built upon disregarding the copyright of countless people?
And hasn't OpenAI recently shown that they can pull off a commercial coup d'état, unscathed?
Why would they not simply also take the voice of some actress? That's small potatoes.
No one is going to push back against OpenAI meaningfully.
People are still going to use ChatGPT to cheat on their homework, to phone-in their jobs, and to try to ride OpenAI's coattails.
The current staff have already shown they're aligned with the coup.
Politicians and business leaders befriend money.
Maybe OpenAI will eventually settle with the actress, for a handful of coins they found in the cushions of their trillion-dollar sofa.
- tony_cannistra 2y ago> No one is going to push back against OpenAI meaningfully. Couldn't, perhaps, one of the more famous people on Earth be responsible for "meaningfully" taking OpenAI to task for this? Perhaps even being the impetus for legislative action?
- neilv 2y agoAnd allied with an army of other artists. If they tell the story of OpenAI, in a way that reaches people, that would be a triumph of the real artists, over the dystopian robo-plagiarists. I love it already.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago>Isn't OpenAI mostly built upon disregarding the copyright of countless people? It sure was. But OpenAI decided to poke the Bear and is being sued by NYT. And apparently as a sidequest they thought it best to put their head in a lion's mouth. I wouldn't call the PR clout and finances of an A-list celebrity small potators. They could have easily flown under the radar and have been praised as the next Google if they kept to petty thievery on the internet instead of going for the high profile content. >People are still going to use ChatGPT to cheat on their homework, to phone-in their jobs, and to try to ride OpenAI's coattails. Sure, and ChatGPT isn't goint to make lots of money from these small time users. They want to target corporate, and nothing scares of coporate more than pending litigation. So I think this will bite them sooner rathter than later. >Maybe OpenAI will eventually settle with the actress, for a handful of coins they found in the cushions of their trillion-dollar sofa. I suppose we'll see. I'm sure she was offered a few pennies as is, and she rejected that. She may not be in it for the money. She very likely doesn't need to work another day in her life as is.
- flanked-evergl 2y ago> > Isn't OpenAI mostly built upon disregarding the copyright of countless people? > It sure was. Can you cite something that elaborates on this point? Do people who read books and then learn from it also disregard copyright? How is what OpenAI does meaningfully different from what people do?
- NicuCalcea 2y agoAre those people then reselling the contents of the books?
- flanked-evergl 2y agoHow is that relevant? Is OpenAI reselling the contests of books? If so, this is the first I have heard of it.
- mepiethree 2y agoYes. You can (could?) paste the “article preview” into GPT-4 and get full articles for free, basically pirating a NYT subscription. Here are “one hundred examples of GPT-4 memorizing content from the New York Times”: https://nytco-assets.nytimes.com/2023/12/Lawsuit-Document-dkt-1-68-Ex-J.pdf https://nytco-assets.nytimes.com/2023/12/Lawsuit-Document-dk...
- flanked-evergl 2y agoThanks for sharing, that is indeed quite a compelling case, and I did not expect it to be regurgitating verbatim text to this extent. It would be interesting to see how OpenAI addresses this.
- mepiethree 2y agoThanks for being open to adjusting your opinion when given new information!