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Twitter is running fine post-firings, and he saved a ton of money. If Elon is so horrific at SpaceX, why is it the only space organization (including NASA) abl

by ozr 2y ago

Twitter is running fine post-firings, and he saved a ton of money. If Elon is so horrific at SpaceX, why is it the only space organization (including NASA) able to innovate and ship anymore? You can dislike his personality, but criticizing his performance is silly.

PartiallyTyped 2y ago
Twitter dropped in value to just 25% of what it was. Racism and naziism are rampant, endless stream of bots pushing propaganda or porn, and has any advertiser actually come back?
- ozr 2y ago
  This is more rhetoric driven by a personal dislike of someone vs. reality. > Twitter dropped in value to just 25% of what it was. It's a private company. You don't know the value. > Racism and naziism are rampant, endless stream of bots pushing propaganda or porn Maybe on your feed? Statistically, no. > and has any advertiser actually come back? Who knows. It's still running after firing anyone: that's the point. Tesla was the first and still the only electric car player that matters. Same with SpaceX and space. Again: you can dislike Elon's personality or politics, but trying to attack his results is ridiculous.
  - PartiallyTyped 2y ago
    Fidelity cut the valuation of its stake at Twitter by 72% [1]. Elmo himself unbanned the prominent whitesuppremacist and neonazi “Nick Fuentes”.[2] Hate-speech has increased significantly [3], and of course the lying and hypocritical self-proclaimed stalwart of free speech threatens to silence researchers documenting this [4]. Of course these are not the only instances of Elon’s grotesque behaviour. For example, the pathetic little boy thinks “cis” is an insult and had that coded into the platform. His platform has tons of documented cases where the platform selectively hides speech deemed against the in-groups he favours. His platform also pushes the visibility of neonazis, bigots and white suprematists like catturd. He keeps inserting his worthless little tweets into my feed despite me blocking and muting him. Kindly, stop licking the boot. [1] https://fortune.com/2024/01/02/elon-musk-twitter-value-72-percent-drop-fidelity/ https://fortune.com/2024/01/02/elon-musk-twitter-value-72-pe... [2] https://www.axios.com/2024/05/03/elon-musk-nick-fuentes-x-account https://www.axios.com/2024/05/03/elon-musk-nick-fuentes-x-ac... [3] https://phys.org/news/2023-04-analysis-speech-significantly-twitter.html https://phys.org/news/2023-04-analysis-speech-significantly-... [4] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/musk-threatens-to-sue-researchers-documenting-the-rise-in-hateful-tweets https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/musk-threatens-to-sue-r...
    - m00x 2y ago
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    - WalterBright 2y ago
      Apparently you're still using X, despite loathing it?
      - PartiallyTyped 2y ago
        Not really. News about all these come up on Reddit. I might open it once in a blue moon or if somebody sends me over there to read something supposedly interesting.
    - PartiallyTyped 2y ago
      I love the fact that the comment with references is negative. Keep it classy HN.
alx_the_new_guy 2y ago
> why is it the only space organization (including NASA) able to innovate and ship anymore Willingness and the ability to try and fail. They haven't really invented anything conceptually new, it's just NASA has to play politics to get it's funding.
- m00x 2y ago
  They have lost interest in actually shipping things since they get paid to do nothing anyway. Same happens in big organizations like IBM, Yahoo, and now Google. Urgency to deliver results is missing from a lot of orgs, especially the public sector.
- WalterBright 2y ago
  > They haven't really invented anything conceptually new Concepts are a dime a dozen. Making them work is where the real contribution lies.
- ozr 2y ago
  Blue Origin doesn't have to, and had much more investment. Virgin, too. It's not just SpaceX outperforming NASA, it's SpaceX outperforming everyone.
  - lupusreal 2y ago
    SpaceX critics often forget (or more likely, never knew in the first place) that Bezos-backed Blue Origin was founded before SpaceX. The way they describe it, any rocket company backed by a very rich guy would have been destined for SpaceX's success, but that clearly just isn't true.

by ozr 2y ago

PartiallyTyped 2y ago

Twitter dropped in value to just 25% of what it was. Racism and naziism are rampant, endless stream of bots pushing propaganda or porn, and has any advertiser actually come back?

ozr 2y ago
This is more rhetoric driven by a personal dislike of someone vs. reality. > Twitter dropped in value to just 25% of what it was. It's a private company. You don't know the value. > Racism and naziism are rampant, endless stream of bots pushing propaganda or porn Maybe on your feed? Statistically, no. > and has any advertiser actually come back? Who knows. It's still running after firing anyone: that's the point. Tesla was the first and still the only electric car player that matters. Same with SpaceX and space. Again: you can dislike Elon's personality or politics, but trying to attack his results is ridiculous.
- PartiallyTyped 2y ago
  Fidelity cut the valuation of its stake at Twitter by 72% [1]. Elmo himself unbanned the prominent whitesuppremacist and neonazi “Nick Fuentes”.[2] Hate-speech has increased significantly [3], and of course the lying and hypocritical self-proclaimed stalwart of free speech threatens to silence researchers documenting this [4]. Of course these are not the only instances of Elon’s grotesque behaviour. For example, the pathetic little boy thinks “cis” is an insult and had that coded into the platform. His platform has tons of documented cases where the platform selectively hides speech deemed against the in-groups he favours. His platform also pushes the visibility of neonazis, bigots and white suprematists like catturd. He keeps inserting his worthless little tweets into my feed despite me blocking and muting him. Kindly, stop licking the boot. [1] https://fortune.com/2024/01/02/elon-musk-twitter-value-72-percent-drop-fidelity/ https://fortune.com/2024/01/02/elon-musk-twitter-value-72-pe... [2] https://www.axios.com/2024/05/03/elon-musk-nick-fuentes-x-account https://www.axios.com/2024/05/03/elon-musk-nick-fuentes-x-ac... [3] https://phys.org/news/2023-04-analysis-speech-significantly-twitter.html https://phys.org/news/2023-04-analysis-speech-significantly-... [4] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/musk-threatens-to-sue-researchers-documenting-the-rise-in-hateful-tweets https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/musk-threatens-to-sue-r...
  - m00x 2y ago
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  - WalterBright 2y ago
    Apparently you're still using X, despite loathing it?
    - PartiallyTyped 2y ago
      Not really. News about all these come up on Reddit. I might open it once in a blue moon or if somebody sends me over there to read something supposedly interesting.
  - PartiallyTyped 2y ago
    I love the fact that the comment with references is negative. Keep it classy HN.

alx_the_new_guy 2y ago

> why is it the only space organization (including NASA) able to innovate and ship anymore Willingness and the ability to try and fail. They haven't really invented anything conceptually new, it's just NASA has to play politics to get it's funding.

m00x 2y ago
They have lost interest in actually shipping things since they get paid to do nothing anyway. Same happens in big organizations like IBM, Yahoo, and now Google. Urgency to deliver results is missing from a lot of orgs, especially the public sector.
WalterBright 2y ago
> They haven't really invented anything conceptually new Concepts are a dime a dozen. Making them work is where the real contribution lies.
ozr 2y ago
Blue Origin doesn't have to, and had much more investment. Virgin, too. It's not just SpaceX outperforming NASA, it's SpaceX outperforming everyone.
- lupusreal 2y ago
  SpaceX critics often forget (or more likely, never knew in the first place) that Bezos-backed Blue Origin was founded before SpaceX. The way they describe it, any rocket company backed by a very rich guy would have been destined for SpaceX's success, but that clearly just isn't true.