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I think for most people the answer is “worse”.

by mepiethree 2y ago

wilg 2y ago
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- DavidPiper 2y ago
  Not OP, or the replier, but I think the longer answer here is that if Scarlett Johansson <insert any wealthy and/or popular figure> can't win a lawsuit against a company that has effectively: (1) Used content she has created (vocal lines) in order to train a generative AI with the ability to create more of that content (vocal lines), without permission or payment, let alone acknowledgement (2) In doing so removed the scarcity of the content she provides (Generative AI is effectively unlimited in the lines it can produce once effectively trained) Then no smaller time actor, voice actor, artist, musician, etc, is likely to have any chance defending themselves against the theft of their work for AI purposes. And, with that precedent set, the legal and financial landscape of art and creativity will have changed in a way that discourages anybody from creating original works for financial gain, because we've systematised the creation of original and derivative works with no legal or financial ramifications.
  - wilg 2y ago
    Maybe, but I don't think it's likely that they used any actual copyrighted material of her voice. It's not illegal to want one voice actor to play a role (or record voice data), then get a different, somewhat (but not actually very) similar sounding voice actor to do it instead.
rockemsockem 2y ago
Curious, how?
- mepiethree 2y ago
  The above comment from MBCook captures it well but basically I would say that for the majority of people I know: Cons: the rise of scams, carbon emissions, and, some think, existential risk. Pros: ??? You can be more efficient at the email job you hate. And it gives you advice on gardening and home improvement so you don’t have to call your uncle. Cons outweigh the pros
  - rockemsockem 2y ago
    Your pros list being empty is the real answer. Basically you don't know the pros because you haven't taken the time to find out. Kinda delegitimizes your cons list too. I'm not going to bother word-by-word checking your work.
    - mepiethree 2y ago
      Um, okay. The original question of “curious, why?” didn’t imply that I need respond with any level of rigor. I don’t think that the burden of proof should be on me to explain why ChatGPT is useful when I don’t believe it to be. But please feel free to not bother to pick apart my opinion ”word-by-word”. No one asked you to

I think for most people the answer is “worse”.

wilg 2y ago

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DavidPiper 2y ago
Not OP, or the replier, but I think the longer answer here is that if Scarlett Johansson <insert any wealthy and/or popular figure> can't win a lawsuit against a company that has effectively: (1) Used content she has created (vocal lines) in order to train a generative AI with the ability to create more of that content (vocal lines), without permission or payment, let alone acknowledgement (2) In doing so removed the scarcity of the content she provides (Generative AI is effectively unlimited in the lines it can produce once effectively trained) Then no smaller time actor, voice actor, artist, musician, etc, is likely to have any chance defending themselves against the theft of their work for AI purposes. And, with that precedent set, the legal and financial landscape of art and creativity will have changed in a way that discourages anybody from creating original works for financial gain, because we've systematised the creation of original and derivative works with no legal or financial ramifications.
- wilg 2y ago
  Maybe, but I don't think it's likely that they used any actual copyrighted material of her voice. It's not illegal to want one voice actor to play a role (or record voice data), then get a different, somewhat (but not actually very) similar sounding voice actor to do it instead.

rockemsockem 2y ago

Curious, how?

mepiethree 2y ago
The above comment from MBCook captures it well but basically I would say that for the majority of people I know: Cons: the rise of scams, carbon emissions, and, some think, existential risk. Pros: ??? You can be more efficient at the email job you hate. And it gives you advice on gardening and home improvement so you don’t have to call your uncle. Cons outweigh the pros
- rockemsockem 2y ago
  Your pros list being empty is the real answer. Basically you don't know the pros because you haven't taken the time to find out. Kinda delegitimizes your cons list too. I'm not going to bother word-by-word checking your work.
  - mepiethree 2y ago
    Um, okay. The original question of “curious, why?” didn’t imply that I need respond with any level of rigor. I don’t think that the burden of proof should be on me to explain why ChatGPT is useful when I don’t believe it to be. But please feel free to not bother to pick apart my opinion ”word-by-word”. No one asked you to