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So they wanted Johansson's voice, she declined, they chose another voice actress who sounds somewhat similar. Can someone explain why that is bad? I don't reall

by z7 2y ago

So they wanted Johansson's voice, she declined, they chose another voice actress who sounds somewhat similar. Can someone explain why that is bad? I don't really get it.

rangerelf 2y ago
Did they really hire another voice actress? Who? As for why it's bad, it's because they set down the precedent of wanting specifically Scarlett Johansen's voice, got declined, doubled down, got declined again, and then went ahead and did it anyway. They can say in their own defense that it's some other voice actress that sounds similar, ok, so produce that name, tell us who she is. Absent that, it's Johansen's voice, clipped from movies and interviews and shows and whatever.
- z7 2y ago
  OpenAI says: "Sky’s voice is not an imitation of Scarlett Johansson but belongs to a different professional actress using her own natural speaking voice." https://openai.com/index/how-the-voices-for-chatgpt-were-chosen/ https://openai.com/index/how-the-voices-for-chatgpt-were-cho...
  - drcode 2y ago
    Yeah, an ScarJo asked them to provide evidence of this before suing them, and they couldn't... and they have a track record of lying.
    - dorkwood 2y ago
      Why shouldn't we trust what OpenAI says? If they say they used another actress, we should give them the benefit of the doubt. Questioning them only gives fuel to their detractors, which could in turn slow progress and reduce investment in the space.
      - mrbungie 2y ago
        Do they get a free pass because of accelerationist reasons? If anything this is a reason to stall/brake. sama tweet after the demo + SJo's press release + OpenAI not even risking it and pulling out the voice from ChatGPT should raise enough doubts if anything.
- minimaxir 2y ago
  The training for a voice decoder model at GPT-4o's quality would require specific and numerous high-quality examples. This is different from how voice cloning models like ElevenLabs works.

by z7 2y ago

So they wanted Johansson's voice, she declined, they chose another voice actress who sounds somewhat similar. Can someone explain why that is bad? I don't really get it.

rangerelf 2y ago

Did they really hire another voice actress? Who? As for why it's bad, it's because they set down the precedent of wanting specifically Scarlett Johansen's voice, got declined, doubled down, got declined again, and then went ahead and did it anyway. They can say in their own defense that it's some other voice actress that sounds similar, ok, so produce that name, tell us who she is. Absent that, it's Johansen's voice, clipped from movies and interviews and shows and whatever.

z7 2y ago
OpenAI says: "Sky’s voice is not an imitation of Scarlett Johansson but belongs to a different professional actress using her own natural speaking voice." https://openai.com/index/how-the-voices-for-chatgpt-were-chosen/ https://openai.com/index/how-the-voices-for-chatgpt-were-cho...
- drcode 2y ago
  Yeah, an ScarJo asked them to provide evidence of this before suing them, and they couldn't... and they have a track record of lying.
  - dorkwood 2y ago
    Why shouldn't we trust what OpenAI says? If they say they used another actress, we should give them the benefit of the doubt. Questioning them only gives fuel to their detractors, which could in turn slow progress and reduce investment in the space.
    - mrbungie 2y ago
      Do they get a free pass because of accelerationist reasons? If anything this is a reason to stall/brake. sama tweet after the demo + SJo's press release + OpenAI not even risking it and pulling out the voice from ChatGPT should raise enough doubts if anything.
minimaxir 2y ago
The training for a voice decoder model at GPT-4o's quality would require specific and numerous high-quality examples. This is different from how voice cloning models like ElevenLabs works.