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I think it’s interesting that Johansson chose to forgo substantial royalties and collaboration potential But it must feel pretty fucking weird and violatory wh

I think it’s interesting that Johansson chose to forgo substantial royalties and collaboration potential But it must feel pretty fucking weird and violatory when you spend your entire life thinking about how you are going to deliver certain lines and that’s your creative Body of work, and then for someone to just take that Voice and apply it to any random text that can be generated? I get why she wouldn’t want to let it go. In a way it is similar to how a developer might feel about their code being absorbed, generalized, and then regurgitated almost verbatim as part of some AI responses But in the case of voice it’s even worse as the personality impression is contained in the slightest utterance… whereas a style of coding Or a piece of code might be less Recognizable, and generally applicable to such a wide range of productions Voice is the original human technology, To try to take that from someone without their consent is a pretty all encompassing grab

whamlastxmas 2y ago
SJ is a major character in like 5 of the top grossing movies of all time. The royalties from her voice being used by ChatGPT would be meaningless to her
steveBK123 2y ago
She choose to forego being a billion lonely guys AI girlfriend Not a bad call for someone already rich
- keepamovin 2y ago
  > She choose to forego being a billion lonely guys AI girlfriend To suggest that Johansson’s only appeal is to the opposite gender (and ‘lonely’ ones at that!) I think is myopic and reductive of her impact hahaha! :)
- keepamovin 2y ago
  > She choose to forego being a billion lonely guys AI girlfriend To suggest that Johansson’s only appeal is to the opposite gender (and ‘lonely’ ones at that!) I think is myopic and reductive of her impact
  - steveBK123 2y ago
    That is not her only appeal, she is a renowned actress. However Sam tweeted "her" which is literally the movie where she voices the AI girlfriend. And then made a synthetic replica of her voice the star of their new demo against her wishes. It's pretty direct what he is pitching at.
    - keepamovin 2y ago
      Fair enough. But I think your comment was reductive… but it doesn’t matter, because how he may have marketed it in a 140 character tweet does not encompass the entirety of how it could be used, of course
      - CRConrad 2y ago
        > But I think your comment was reductive… So what? Reducing a situation to its essentials is an entirely valid argument / debating technique.
        keepamovin 2y ago
        Your mistake is thinking that's the essentials hahaha! :)
        CRConrad 2y ago
        Oh ferfuxxake, please stop it with the Valley Girl talk. lol hahaha!
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  - skywhopper 2y ago
    That was not an exclusive statement. It can be a billion lonely guys, AND lonely women, AND gregarious enbies, AND everyone else.
- chemmail 2y ago
  More like delaying the inevitable. We have ai voice generation so good now, they use it to stage ransom calls and parents cannot tell the difference.
- consumer451 2y ago
  I would have to imagine that having your voice being spit out of millions of machines, all day long, might dilute one's brand, no? Also, suddenly your voice is being used to say things that you would never say. What could go wrong? Suddenly, instead of ScarJo, the famous movie star, you are that crazy voice from OpenAI.
logrot 2y ago
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- keepamovin 2y ago
  > I think you're pretty naive. I don’t think it’s about me, but since you brought it up, I try to maintain my innocence in this world. I try to be biased towards that rather than cynicism, at least… I think that’s important. Cynicism is a kind of arrogance: where you think you’ve seen it all before… but you’re wrong. But thank you for the opportunity Your comment provides to speak to that: I do appreciate it. the chance to add clarity.
  - thelastCube 2y ago
    I think you are a class act.
tootie 2y ago
ScarJo probably has enough money for ten lifetimes already. The potential downside of signing your identity away to a SV plutocrat with questionable morality and world-changing technology is enormous. And it seems like she was instantly vindicated in not trusting him.
suddenexample 2y ago
Were royalties in the picture? Don't think it's crazy to think that a company obsessed with replacing artists wouldn't value one enough to pay royalties. And in terms of collaboration potential... OpenAI is a big draw for businesses and a subset of tech enthusiasts, but I don't think artists in any industry are dying to collaborate with them.
- cdrini 2y ago
  According to Open AI's post about the Sky voice controversy: "Each actor receives compensation above top-of-market rates, and this will continue for as long as their voices are used in our products." https://openai.com/index/how-the-voices-for-chatgpt-were-chosen/ https://openai.com/index/how-the-voices-for-chatgpt-were-cho... Not sure if this is royalties, but it seems like there's some form of long term compensation. But it's a little vague so not sure.
fxd123 2y ago
> chose to forgo substantial royalties and collaboration potential We know nothing about their offer to her. Could have just been a bad deal

whamlastxmas 2y ago

SJ is a major character in like 5 of the top grossing movies of all time. The royalties from her voice being used by ChatGPT would be meaningless to her

steveBK123 2y ago

She choose to forego being a billion lonely guys AI girlfriend Not a bad call for someone already rich

keepamovin 2y ago
> She choose to forego being a billion lonely guys AI girlfriend To suggest that Johansson’s only appeal is to the opposite gender (and ‘lonely’ ones at that!) I think is myopic and reductive of her impact hahaha! :)
keepamovin 2y ago
> She choose to forego being a billion lonely guys AI girlfriend To suggest that Johansson’s only appeal is to the opposite gender (and ‘lonely’ ones at that!) I think is myopic and reductive of her impact
- steveBK123 2y ago
  That is not her only appeal, she is a renowned actress. However Sam tweeted "her" which is literally the movie where she voices the AI girlfriend. And then made a synthetic replica of her voice the star of their new demo against her wishes. It's pretty direct what he is pitching at.
  - keepamovin 2y ago
    Fair enough. But I think your comment was reductive… but it doesn’t matter, because how he may have marketed it in a 140 character tweet does not encompass the entirety of how it could be used, of course
    - CRConrad 2y ago
      > But I think your comment was reductive… So what? Reducing a situation to its essentials is an entirely valid argument / debating technique.
      - keepamovin 2y ago
        Your mistake is thinking that's the essentials hahaha! :)
        CRConrad 2y ago
        Oh ferfuxxake, please stop it with the Valley Girl talk. lol hahaha!
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- skywhopper 2y ago
  That was not an exclusive statement. It can be a billion lonely guys, AND lonely women, AND gregarious enbies, AND everyone else.
chemmail 2y ago
More like delaying the inevitable. We have ai voice generation so good now, they use it to stage ransom calls and parents cannot tell the difference.
consumer451 2y ago
I would have to imagine that having your voice being spit out of millions of machines, all day long, might dilute one's brand, no? Also, suddenly your voice is being used to say things that you would never say. What could go wrong? Suddenly, instead of ScarJo, the famous movie star, you are that crazy voice from OpenAI.

logrot 2y ago

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keepamovin 2y ago
> I think you're pretty naive. I don’t think it’s about me, but since you brought it up, I try to maintain my innocence in this world. I try to be biased towards that rather than cynicism, at least… I think that’s important. Cynicism is a kind of arrogance: where you think you’ve seen it all before… but you’re wrong. But thank you for the opportunity Your comment provides to speak to that: I do appreciate it. the chance to add clarity.
- thelastCube 2y ago
  I think you are a class act.

tootie 2y ago

ScarJo probably has enough money for ten lifetimes already. The potential downside of signing your identity away to a SV plutocrat with questionable morality and world-changing technology is enormous. And it seems like she was instantly vindicated in not trusting him.

suddenexample 2y ago

Were royalties in the picture? Don't think it's crazy to think that a company obsessed with replacing artists wouldn't value one enough to pay royalties. And in terms of collaboration potential... OpenAI is a big draw for businesses and a subset of tech enthusiasts, but I don't think artists in any industry are dying to collaborate with them.

cdrini 2y ago
According to Open AI's post about the Sky voice controversy: "Each actor receives compensation above top-of-market rates, and this will continue for as long as their voices are used in our products." https://openai.com/index/how-the-voices-for-chatgpt-were-chosen/ https://openai.com/index/how-the-voices-for-chatgpt-were-cho... Not sure if this is royalties, but it seems like there's some form of long term compensation. But it's a little vague so not sure.

fxd123 2y ago

> chose to forgo substantial royalties and collaboration potential We know nothing about their offer to her. Could have just been a bad deal