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> This is the root cause of the madness. Colleges insist on weighing these activities heavily in admissions decisions, so parents have no choice but to force th
by csa 2y ago
> This is the root cause of the madness. Colleges insist on weighing these activities heavily in admissions decisions, so parents have no choice but to force their kids to jump through the hoops.
This matters pretty
much only at elite schools.
These schools are looking for ambition and the ability to get shit done. This is not a bad way to do it. Maybe not the most optimal, but it’s not bad.
Some folks think this is not fair or reasonable. The reality is that elite schools can’t just admit based on scores and grades (easy to inflate) due to that system not being selective enough for the number of available slots.
> Is my kid really going to be a better student because she volunteered at a hospital…
Hmmm…
1. Probably doesn’t matter for most schools.
2. Less likely to wash out of a pre-med major if s/he has done this. There is a very high percentage of pre-med washouts (that’s totally ok), but an applicant with a good why is more likely to stick to it, and that’s probably good for the school.
3. Elite schools, which are the pretty much the only ones where this is relevant, will want more than “volunteered at a hospital”. They want to see significant contributions and/or leadership.
> or played high school softball?
Probably not, but regarding elite schools (probably doesn’t matter elsewhere)…
There is a culture around sports and upper middle class / elite culture in the US. This is especially true for varsity athletics (I call it a totally-not-a-club-club).
Some folks may not like that this is true, but that doesn’t make it any less true.
- brigade 2y agoIt's very much "figure out what AOs want and fake it" rather than "show ambition and ability to get shit done", and kids are acutely aware of the fakeness of it all. Like, it's a meme among the "applying to Ivies" crowd just how many nonprofits high schoolers start that are total shams, designed for the sole purpose of being able to say they "founded a nonprofit dedicated to giving ukulele lessons for historically underserved neighborhoods" on their application without technically lying. It is an important lesson that the biggest controllable factor in success is figuring out how to play the game, rather than actual passion in doing something.