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Dali back in Baltimore port, freed 55 days after striking and collapsing Bridge

25 points by iamthirsty 2y ago

AceJohnny2 2y ago
related, NTSB's preliminary report on the incident: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Documents/DCA24MM031_PreliminaryReport%203.pdf https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Documents/DCA24MM031_Pre... (the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) is a very well-regarded agency that analyzes such accidents) Starting page 9 is a detailed sequence of events.
- mhb 2y ago
  Discussion with 100 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40359993 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40359993
xeromal 2y ago
This reminds me of that man who was stuck in egypt on a boat for 4 years. https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-edition-1.6002269/after-nearly-4-years-stranded-on-cargo-ship-in-egypt-a-syrian-crew-member-finally-goes-home-1.6002473 https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-ed...
- whalesalad 2y ago
  I would have jumped off and just started to swim
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    > In order to get food and water and charge his phone, Aisha had to swim ashore. I'm guessing the subsequent "get out of Egypt" is the hard bit.
  - xeromal 2y ago
    He actually jumped off and swam ashore occasionally to buy food and charge his phone.
    - apples_oranges 2y ago
      just googled him to read more and according this https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56842506 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56842506 he only was able to swim ashore after a storm blew the ship very close to the shore
- lxgr 2y ago
  See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Fleet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Fleet
- eastbound 2y ago
  After 4 years alone… a Covid test was still required to leave.
beejiu 2y ago
"This content is not available in your region" Is there an alternative link?
- thedaly 2y ago
  What region? https://archive.is/C9oKk https://archive.is/C9oKk Edit: Better link: https://web.archive.org/web/20240520212841/https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/05/20/key-bridge-dali-refloat-baltimore-port/ https://web.archive.org/web/20240520212841/https://www.balti...
chimeracoder 2y ago
The crew has been stuck on the ship this entire time - including when they were detonating explosives on the ship to free part of the debris from the bridge. They had their personal phones confiscated, so they've lost access to their personal information and ability to contact friends and family at home[0]. They've finally been given replacement phones, but they still don't have their original phones back (or the personal data on it, including contact numbers). And while the ship is now docked, the crew is still stuck on board the ship. [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-69011124 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-69011124
- stoperaticless 2y ago
  What’s the reason for confiscation?
  - dralley 2y ago
    I'm guessing it's about the investigation.
  - joecool1029 2y ago
    Important to note: The NTSB so far has listed no probable cause (the preliminary report is linked somewhere else in this thread.) The phones were confiscated by the FBI, I'm not even sure how they are involved in such a request. The ship would be under maritime law so if anyone is handling the investigation and seizing devices wouldn't it be the CBP? Maybe someone on this site knows more about maritime law and how this works?
    - ano-ther 2y ago
      The FBI has a maritime security program and this is quite literally a hit to critical infrastructure. https://oig.justice.gov/reports/FBI/a0626/exec.htm https://oig.justice.gov/reports/FBI/a0626/exec.htm (2006)
  - pvaldes 2y ago
    Not difficult to guess. Most probably, looking for possible connections with people that could (hypothetically) have reasons to have planned or pay them for a sabotage act. Places visited, times, conversations, a recent biography of the owners... Is all in the phones. They may find that nothing is suspicious, and this would be in fact a valid result to include, but it will worth a try. From the point of view of the phone owners, a problem is how to guarantee that the phones are not contaminated with fake data later. I assume that there are official protocols deployed to keep the chain of custody safe and clean.
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zer00eyz 2y ago
IN the grand scheem of things it isnt that long to be stuck: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Fleet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Fleet
underseacables 2y ago
For a fascinating look into shipping and why all of this, especially for how the crew has been treated, read the book "Ninety Percent of Everything: Inside Shipping, the Invisible Industry That Puts Clothes on Your Back, Gas in Your Car, and Food on Your Plate" by Rose George. Absolutely fascinating. Seafarers have almost no rights, which is mostly why they have been forced to stay on the boat and have their phones confiscated by the FBI.

25 points by iamthirsty 2y ago

related, NTSB's preliminary report on the incident: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Documents/DCA24MM031_PreliminaryReport%203.pdf https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Documents/DCA24MM031_Pre... (the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) is a very well-regarded agency that analyzes such accidents) Starting page 9 is a detailed sequence of events.

mhb 2y ago
Discussion with 100 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40359993 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40359993

xeromal 2y ago

This reminds me of that man who was stuck in egypt on a boat for 4 years. https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-edition-1.6002269/after-nearly-4-years-stranded-on-cargo-ship-in-egypt-a-syrian-crew-member-finally-goes-home-1.6002473 https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-monday-ed...

whalesalad 2y ago
I would have jumped off and just started to swim
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  > In order to get food and water and charge his phone, Aisha had to swim ashore. I'm guessing the subsequent "get out of Egypt" is the hard bit.
- xeromal 2y ago
  He actually jumped off and swam ashore occasionally to buy food and charge his phone.
  - apples_oranges 2y ago
    just googled him to read more and according this https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56842506 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56842506 he only was able to swim ashore after a storm blew the ship very close to the shore
lxgr 2y ago
See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Fleet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Fleet
eastbound 2y ago
After 4 years alone… a Covid test was still required to leave.

beejiu 2y ago

"This content is not available in your region" Is there an alternative link?

thedaly 2y ago
What region? https://archive.is/C9oKk https://archive.is/C9oKk Edit: Better link: https://web.archive.org/web/20240520212841/https://www.baltimoresun.com/2024/05/20/key-bridge-dali-refloat-baltimore-port/ https://web.archive.org/web/20240520212841/https://www.balti...

chimeracoder 2y ago

The crew has been stuck on the ship this entire time - including when they were detonating explosives on the ship to free part of the debris from the bridge. They had their personal phones confiscated, so they've lost access to their personal information and ability to contact friends and family at home[0]. They've finally been given replacement phones, but they still don't have their original phones back (or the personal data on it, including contact numbers). And while the ship is now docked, the crew is still stuck on board the ship. [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-69011124 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-69011124

stoperaticless 2y ago
What’s the reason for confiscation?
- dralley 2y ago
  I'm guessing it's about the investigation.
- joecool1029 2y ago
  Important to note: The NTSB so far has listed no probable cause (the preliminary report is linked somewhere else in this thread.) The phones were confiscated by the FBI, I'm not even sure how they are involved in such a request. The ship would be under maritime law so if anyone is handling the investigation and seizing devices wouldn't it be the CBP? Maybe someone on this site knows more about maritime law and how this works?
  - ano-ther 2y ago
    The FBI has a maritime security program and this is quite literally a hit to critical infrastructure. https://oig.justice.gov/reports/FBI/a0626/exec.htm https://oig.justice.gov/reports/FBI/a0626/exec.htm (2006)
- pvaldes 2y ago
  Not difficult to guess. Most probably, looking for possible connections with people that could (hypothetically) have reasons to have planned or pay them for a sabotage act. Places visited, times, conversations, a recent biography of the owners... Is all in the phones. They may find that nothing is suspicious, and this would be in fact a valid result to include, but it will worth a try. From the point of view of the phone owners, a problem is how to guarantee that the phones are not contaminated with fake data later. I assume that there are official protocols deployed to keep the chain of custody safe and clean.

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zer00eyz 2y ago

IN the grand scheem of things it isnt that long to be stuck: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Fleet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Fleet

underseacables 2y ago

For a fascinating look into shipping and why all of this, especially for how the crew has been treated, read the book "Ninety Percent of Everything: Inside Shipping, the Invisible Industry That Puts Clothes on Your Back, Gas in Your Car, and Food on Your Plate" by Rose George. Absolutely fascinating. Seafarers have almost no rights, which is mostly why they have been forced to stay on the boat and have their phones confiscated by the FBI.