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Mines are commonly not in the most accessible space, so it's not unreasonable for them to continue to use fossil fuel backups for at least some time. For impro

Mines are commonly not in the most accessible space, so it's not unreasonable for them to continue to use fossil fuel backups for at least some time. For improving climate change it's important to not let perfect get in the way of better, especially when it's in an industry that has such a massive environmental impact.

dzhiurgis 2y ago
Solar arrays are cheaper than generators and not exactly difficult to install.
- ender341341 2y ago
  yes, I'd much rather see that, but I'd rather them start migrating now less optimally than buying equipment with decades of expected use that can't be migrated to cleaner energy. It's easy to install as long as you only need power during daylight hours, but if you need batteries it gets more complicated, we have decades of experience with backup generators and only a few years experience with grid scale batteries, and if there's multiple of these trucks that need to charge it's definitely a larger scale than whole home (maybe more neighborhood scale than grid scale). I'm definitely in the we need to be moving way faster than we are, but if companies are gonna get shit on for doing better but not perfect & shit on if they do nothing then they're just gonna choose to do nothing cause it's easier and in cases like this no one would have been talking about them in the first place.
Animats 2y ago
The mining truck pictured seems to be this one.[1] That's a Diesel-electric drive mining truck, and it is powered by the same diesel engine used in the generator trailer shown in the video. So, if you're charging from that stationary generator, all you've done is take the Diesel and generator out of the truck and put them in a box on the ground. Now, really, this is just a problem with the demo. The customer here has plenty of renewable power available. Plus, of course, if the mining situation means mostly moving ore downhill, the truck may be recharged by its own regenerative braking system. [1] https://machine.market/specification-24166 https://machine.market/specification-24166

dzhiurgis 2y ago

Solar arrays are cheaper than generators and not exactly difficult to install.

ender341341 2y ago
yes, I'd much rather see that, but I'd rather them start migrating now less optimally than buying equipment with decades of expected use that can't be migrated to cleaner energy. It's easy to install as long as you only need power during daylight hours, but if you need batteries it gets more complicated, we have decades of experience with backup generators and only a few years experience with grid scale batteries, and if there's multiple of these trucks that need to charge it's definitely a larger scale than whole home (maybe more neighborhood scale than grid scale). I'm definitely in the we need to be moving way faster than we are, but if companies are gonna get shit on for doing better but not perfect & shit on if they do nothing then they're just gonna choose to do nothing cause it's easier and in cases like this no one would have been talking about them in the first place.

Animats 2y ago

The mining truck pictured seems to be this one.[1] That's a Diesel-electric drive mining truck, and it is powered by the same diesel engine used in the generator trailer shown in the video. So, if you're charging from that stationary generator, all you've done is take the Diesel and generator out of the truck and put them in a box on the ground. Now, really, this is just a problem with the demo. The customer here has plenty of renewable power available. Plus, of course, if the mining situation means mostly moving ore downhill, the truck may be recharged by its own regenerative braking system. [1] https://machine.market/specification-24166 https://machine.market/specification-24166