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Coverage on Windows Central says it is all local. As for the law enforcement question, it doesn't matter. If they want to get info from your computer, they will

Coverage on Windows Central says it is all local. As for the law enforcement question, it doesn't matter. If they want to get info from your computer, they will and they don't need AI to help.

mlindner 2y ago
> As for the law enforcement question, it doesn't matter. If they want to get info from your computer, they will and they don't need AI to help. This is a poor take. Law enforcement needs a warrant to seize your computer to get your data normally. Law enforcement only needs a compliant and willing corporate person to willingly give over your data to law enforcement. It's about who owns it and where is it located and the protections around it.
- croes 2y ago
  Getting a warrant isn't that hard either.
  - milkshakes 2y ago
    getting a warrant requires probable cause, and a judge to approve it. maybe that's not hard, maybe it is, but i'd personally prefer more steps being required to access what data i have.
    - bitwize 2y ago
      Indeed. It's the difference between already having substantive reason to believe you committed a crime, and surveilling you willy-nilly looking for a crime to pin on you. The less arbitrary access law enforcement has to your data, the more difficult the latter becomes.
      - freedomben 2y ago
        Exactly. There are some judges that will rubber stamp warrants without even looking at them closely, but there are still plenty who don't and there's a paper trail as well that provides some protections. When you just go to where no warrant is required, it won't make a difference when the police want to get a specific person, but it will make a big difference on whether they are able to surveil wide swathes of the population and how easy it all is for them.
    - croes 2y ago
      In Germany it's the same in theory, in reality even bogus causes are approved by the judges who neither the time and knowledge to really check the inquiry.
      - __loam 2y ago
        In the United States, protection from unlawful search and seizure has been in our constitution since the very beginning through the fourth amendment. This is a critical component of what we believe are human rights, so we will continue to insist that law enforcement should "get a fuckin warrant" if they want to dig through our personal data, regardless of your opinion on how easily that warrant will be granted.
matheusmoreira 2y ago
> If they want to get info from your computer, they will and they don't need AI to help. They wouldn't be continuously trying to ban encryption worldwide if that was true. There's plenty of things everyone can do to protect themselves.
- EasyMark 2y ago
  I mean you can encrypt and refuse (forget?) the password in the USA, but there's really not much else. Judges (at least here in Texas) give out warrants like they're America Online (TM) CD's and the state attorney general is a well-known "alleged" grifter. It's looking real bad for the 4th amendment in the USA, it's on the ropes and has been especially since the Patriot Act kicked off a lot of police anti-constitutional actions.

Coverage on Windows Central says it is all local. As for the law enforcement question, it doesn't matter. If they want to get info from your computer, they will and they don't need AI to help.

mlindner 2y ago

> As for the law enforcement question, it doesn't matter. If they want to get info from your computer, they will and they don't need AI to help. This is a poor take. Law enforcement needs a warrant to seize your computer to get your data normally. Law enforcement only needs a compliant and willing corporate person to willingly give over your data to law enforcement. It's about who owns it and where is it located and the protections around it.

croes 2y ago
Getting a warrant isn't that hard either.
- milkshakes 2y ago
  getting a warrant requires probable cause, and a judge to approve it. maybe that's not hard, maybe it is, but i'd personally prefer more steps being required to access what data i have.
  - bitwize 2y ago
    Indeed. It's the difference between already having substantive reason to believe you committed a crime, and surveilling you willy-nilly looking for a crime to pin on you. The less arbitrary access law enforcement has to your data, the more difficult the latter becomes.
    - freedomben 2y ago
      Exactly. There are some judges that will rubber stamp warrants without even looking at them closely, but there are still plenty who don't and there's a paper trail as well that provides some protections. When you just go to where no warrant is required, it won't make a difference when the police want to get a specific person, but it will make a big difference on whether they are able to surveil wide swathes of the population and how easy it all is for them.
  - croes 2y ago
    In Germany it's the same in theory, in reality even bogus causes are approved by the judges who neither the time and knowledge to really check the inquiry.
    - __loam 2y ago
      In the United States, protection from unlawful search and seizure has been in our constitution since the very beginning through the fourth amendment. This is a critical component of what we believe are human rights, so we will continue to insist that law enforcement should "get a fuckin warrant" if they want to dig through our personal data, regardless of your opinion on how easily that warrant will be granted.

matheusmoreira 2y ago

> If they want to get info from your computer, they will and they don't need AI to help. They wouldn't be continuously trying to ban encryption worldwide if that was true. There's plenty of things everyone can do to protect themselves.

EasyMark 2y ago
I mean you can encrypt and refuse (forget?) the password in the USA, but there's really not much else. Judges (at least here in Texas) give out warrants like they're America Online (TM) CD's and the state attorney general is a well-known "alleged" grifter. It's looking real bad for the 4th amendment in the USA, it's on the ropes and has been especially since the Patriot Act kicked off a lot of police anti-constitutional actions.