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It's not about Apple. Google/MS would invest for their own sake, so that it would translate into more apps (earlier, not as a second class citizen) on their pla

It's not about Apple. Google/MS would invest for their own sake, so that it would translate into more apps (earlier, not as a second class citizen) on their platform, which in the end would bring money as well.

hu3 2y ago
The math is not that simple. Investing in Swift would to an extent canibalize Go, Dart/Flutter, TypeScript, C#. You know, the technologies which have creators that actually care and invest billions in cross-platform development. Not to mention fragmentation. Apple doesn't even care about Linux running in their own hardware. Their contribution towards that goal ranges from hostile to scraps, depending on who you ask.
- Rimtariro 2y ago
  Don't make it sound like a zero-sum game, because it is not. They don't have to drop any of the support they provide for other languages right now. In fact, they don't even have to do that much for Swift. They don't have to develop neither the language nor the compiler. They need to do similar to what The Browser Company did, exposing and allowing usage of their APIs from Swift, and maintain it as their API evolves. If The Browser Company could afford it, while developing the browser, Google and Microsoft can afford it as well.
  - hu3 2y ago
    > If The Browser Company could afford it, while developing the browser, Google and Microsoft can afford it as well. If The Browser Company could afford it, 3 trillion USD market cap Apple can afford it as well.
  - stonemetal12 2y ago
    For an Apple\Google owned ecosystem it is. If leaving the walled garden is a button click away, what app would be Apple or Google exclusive? Suddenly an iPhone Owner's favorite apps are on the other platform too, so when upgrade time rolls around why buy an iPhone (and vice versa for Android)? Commoditizing your own product is never in a company's best interest so don't expect it to happen willingly.

hu3 2y ago

The math is not that simple. Investing in Swift would to an extent canibalize Go, Dart/Flutter, TypeScript, C#. You know, the technologies which have creators that actually care and invest billions in cross-platform development. Not to mention fragmentation. Apple doesn't even care about Linux running in their own hardware. Their contribution towards that goal ranges from hostile to scraps, depending on who you ask.

Rimtariro 2y ago
Don't make it sound like a zero-sum game, because it is not. They don't have to drop any of the support they provide for other languages right now. In fact, they don't even have to do that much for Swift. They don't have to develop neither the language nor the compiler. They need to do similar to what The Browser Company did, exposing and allowing usage of their APIs from Swift, and maintain it as their API evolves. If The Browser Company could afford it, while developing the browser, Google and Microsoft can afford it as well.
- hu3 2y ago
  > If The Browser Company could afford it, while developing the browser, Google and Microsoft can afford it as well. If The Browser Company could afford it, 3 trillion USD market cap Apple can afford it as well.
- stonemetal12 2y ago
  For an Apple\Google owned ecosystem it is. If leaving the walled garden is a button click away, what app would be Apple or Google exclusive? Suddenly an iPhone Owner's favorite apps are on the other platform too, so when upgrade time rolls around why buy an iPhone (and vice versa for Android)? Commoditizing your own product is never in a company's best interest so don't expect it to happen willingly.