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These seem pretty darn luxury - I would like a “bedroom” computer for stronger work life separation so I’ve considered iPad Pro a few times, and the new keyboar
by jitl 2y ago
These seem pretty darn luxury - I would like a “bedroom” computer for stronger work life separation so I’ve considered iPad Pro a few times, and the new keyboard thing, the very cool screen seem like everyday stuff & creative pursuits could be great on it.
But there’s no way I’d buy one without there being a serious update to iPadOS at WWDC. I don’t expect to ever see crazy productivity & customization on iPadOS, but there’s just so much about the UX of the operating system that makes it much slower and more confusing to multi-task or do complex workflows compared to traditional desktop OS.
Both iPadOS and VisionOS run on super fast hardware, but doing everyday stuff like comparison shopping or planning a vacation feels like trying to swim in a river of molasses. Single app focus tasks like Procreate or watching a movie are awesome - often better - but anything with 2+ windows seems to spend a massive amount of pixels on padding and borders and just feels so frustrating.
- justinclift 2y agoYeah. Every time I've seriously looked at getting an iPad... I just end up getting a Surface Pro instead. The Surface Pro is "good enough" hardware wise, and having a full featured OS means I can run Blender and whatever else I choose.
- criddell 2y agoIf you don't need to run applications that run best on an iPad, they really don't make much sense. For me, Proceate and Goodnotes are killer apps that justify the iPad.
- justinclift 2y agoYeah, that's fair. I just wish they were more open, so other applications (like Blender) could run on the things. :) Wacom would shit bricks. :D
- criddell 2y agoWhat's stopping somebody from porting Blender or writing something like it for iPadOS and the Pencil? Other open source applications (like VLC for example) have excellent iPad ports. Would Blender need some entitlement that Apple is unlikely to grant?
- jitl 2y agoI found the Surface Pro to be an enormous faff back in the Windows 8 days - abysmal janky inconsistent touch UI support, high-DPI broken or blurry in several programs, combined with the new Microsoft’s urge to shove ads in every surface of their OS. 2+ different on-screen keyboards that may or may not appear when you focus a text input. Cool concept, very exciting when it worked, but generally worse than buying a separate laptop and iPad for me at least. (Owned 2 generations of it - got a generation update free of charge for warranty issue)
- asadotzler 2y agoIf you haven't touched a product in 8 generations and your only experience was on a gen 1 version, your review is useless.
- jitl 2y agoI used gen 1 and gen 2, and still primarily use Windows to this day on a 15” touch screen. Control panel with touch is much improved but the 3rd party app ecosystem support for HiDPI and touch sized controls is even worse today since most companies gave up on Windows Store and UWP style apps. In my opinion Windows 10 was a step back in terms of touch UX because the Windows 8 Home Screen / full screen start menu tried harder to be good. Maybe it’s not Surface but I still have to manually invoke the touch keyboard from the accessibility menu like 20% of the time to type my password to log in after booting up.
- sebazzz 2y agoI would take an iPad Pro with Windows anytime. Surface Pro isn't the most reliable hardware.
- justinclift 2y agoUnfortunately, the iPad Pro can't run Blender at all. So it's not really an option when it comes down to it. It's just not up to the task in its current locked down state. :(