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Out of those quality candidates that apply: Some will find a job before they finish you interview process. Some will change their mind. Some will have a chan

Out of those quality candidates that apply: Some will find a job before they finish you interview process. Some will change their mind. Some will have a change on personal circumstances. Some (many?) will ask for more than you can offer. To hire one good person, you usually need many to apply.

lapcat 2y ago
> Some will find a job before they finish you interview process. "one quality candidate might be perfect, because then the hiring process can go very fast" > Some (many?) will ask for more than you can offer. This seems to ignore my point 1 about listing salary/compensation on the job posting.
- dukeyukey 2y ago
  "Can" go fast. Usually it won't. And in most cases, you can't revamp the whole hiring process, and mostly need to work with what you've got.
  - lapcat 2y ago
    > Usually it won't. But that's the employer's own fault. I was offering suggestions to employers. > And in most cases, you can't revamp the whole hiring process In most cases, they should revamp their whole hiring process. The point of this HN submission is that employers can't find employees, and that's also the point of my original comment. "We can't change anything about hiring" is why you can't find employees. It's a poor excuse.
sarchertech 2y ago
> Some will find a job before they finish you interview process. The more this happens the greater the chances your interview process is too long. A fast interview process has many many benefits.
SantalBlush 2y ago
>Some will find a job before they finish you interview process. It sounds like a different company was able to find and hire talent faster, to their benefit. So the solution is to be more like them.
asadotzler 2y ago
>Some will find a job before they finish you interview process. Not if your interview process allows for a good candidate to get an offer in a reasonable time frame. If so, then rare. You could make an offer on spot, for example. >Some will change their mind. Not if your interview process allows for a good candidate to get an offer in a reasonable time frame. If so, then rare. You sign a contract on the spot for example. >Some will have a change on personal circumstances. Not if your interview process allows for a good candidate to get an offer in a reasonable time frame. If so, then rare. These first three are all the same. People will bail out if you're too slow with your dumb hiring processes. Don't be slow and the problem mostly goes away. >Some (many?) will ask for more than you can offer. Not if you post your salary bands with your job openings like any decent company would do. >To hire one good person, you usually need many to apply. Nah, you need a couple of decent candidates to apply, a first choice and a fallback if you want to worry about those rare case of someone changing their mind. If your salaries are public and your process is efficient, you need only one good candidate, maybe two for backup and variety outside of core competency.

lapcat 2y ago

> Some will find a job before they finish you interview process. "one quality candidate might be perfect, because then the hiring process can go very fast" > Some (many?) will ask for more than you can offer. This seems to ignore my point 1 about listing salary/compensation on the job posting.

dukeyukey 2y ago
"Can" go fast. Usually it won't. And in most cases, you can't revamp the whole hiring process, and mostly need to work with what you've got.
- lapcat 2y ago
  > Usually it won't. But that's the employer's own fault. I was offering suggestions to employers. > And in most cases, you can't revamp the whole hiring process In most cases, they should revamp their whole hiring process. The point of this HN submission is that employers can't find employees, and that's also the point of my original comment. "We can't change anything about hiring" is why you can't find employees. It's a poor excuse.

sarchertech 2y ago

> Some will find a job before they finish you interview process. The more this happens the greater the chances your interview process is too long. A fast interview process has many many benefits.

SantalBlush 2y ago

>Some will find a job before they finish you interview process. It sounds like a different company was able to find and hire talent faster, to their benefit. So the solution is to be more like them.

asadotzler 2y ago

>Some will find a job before they finish you interview process. Not if your interview process allows for a good candidate to get an offer in a reasonable time frame. If so, then rare. You could make an offer on spot, for example. >Some will change their mind. Not if your interview process allows for a good candidate to get an offer in a reasonable time frame. If so, then rare. You sign a contract on the spot for example. >Some will have a change on personal circumstances. Not if your interview process allows for a good candidate to get an offer in a reasonable time frame. If so, then rare. These first three are all the same. People will bail out if you're too slow with your dumb hiring processes. Don't be slow and the problem mostly goes away. >Some (many?) will ask for more than you can offer. Not if you post your salary bands with your job openings like any decent company would do. >To hire one good person, you usually need many to apply. Nah, you need a couple of decent candidates to apply, a first choice and a fallback if you want to worry about those rare case of someone changing their mind. If your salaries are public and your process is efficient, you need only one good candidate, maybe two for backup and variety outside of core competency.