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Julian Assange granted permission to appeal extradition

55 points by skilled 2y ago

phyalow 2y ago
A small victory. I truly hope Assange is released from custody as a free man soon.
- squarefoot 2y ago
  +1. The guy has already suffered well beyond any reasonable limit; no need to rage on him just to make a point.
- Log_out_ 2y ago
  Bonus points: he gets to high five blair and bush on the way in.. We are better than them even when it comes to usVsThem..
SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago
I hope that the USA decides not to prosecute Mr Assange on this matter of "Espionage charges relating to the publication of thousands of classified and diplomatic documents", which dates back to before the Biden administration. This is not a broader comment either way; on Mr Assange's character or his culpability on any other changes. Be he a hero or a garbage person, it seems better to drop this charge. It is important to separate this and not reduce it to "Assange good" or "Assange bad". That should be irrelevant to the decision of this legal case.
- pestatije 2y ago
  but he could (id say he almost surely would) reoffend...for the US the most important thing is to keep the guy shut
- lbhdc 2y ago
  Why do you feel they should drop the charges? Edit: I get that people feel strongly about this, but I am genuinely curious :)
  - SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago
    The disclosure was in the public interest. I'm trying to avoid the strong feelings pro and con the person.
skilled 2y ago
"Legal submissions on US assurances" https://assangecourt.report/may-20-docs https://assangecourt.report/may-20-docs > Below you’ll find submissions from Julian Assange’s legal team on the sufficiency of assurances submitted by the US Government - as well as the US Government response - for the appeal hearing on 20 May 2024. // all the links below are PDF files Assange legal team submission (https://bridgesforfreedom.media/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/5-240430-Assange-submissions-re-assurance-final-for-filing.pdf https://bridgesforfreedom.media/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/5...) US response (https://bridgesforfreedom.media/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/First-Respondents-Submissions-on-Assurances-14.5.2024.pdf https://bridgesforfreedom.media/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/F...) Response from Assange legal team (https://bridgesforfreedom.media/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/10-240516-Reply-final-for-filing.pdf https://bridgesforfreedom.media/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/1...)
- digitalPhonix 2y ago
  From the US response, there's this quote: > 13. Even if nationality and citizenship are meant to be synonymous terms under the 2003 Act Act, - and we submit that they are not - ... What does that mean? As a non-american nationality and citizenship are synonymous to me. What is the difference?
  - skilled 2y ago
    Yeah this was brought up in court yesterday a lot. I can’t answer your question directly but the US was being a slime all the way through with the wording of the two. Here is a Twitter thread that shows the live recap of what was said in court: https://x.com/richimedhurst/status/1792493027421720840 https://x.com/richimedhurst/status/1792493027421720840 https://nitter.poast.org/richimedhurst/status/1792493027421720840 https://nitter.poast.org/richimedhurst/status/17924930274217...
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ChrisArchitect 2y ago
Related: Free Julian Assange https://freeassange.org/ https://freeassange.org/ (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40409197 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40409197)
belorn 2y ago
In a decade or so when people who was not even born when all this happen read this story, will they believe any of it? A guy publish a bunch of embarrassing documents from the United States central intelligence agency, including private documents between diplomats. Sweden raises sexual assault charges against him a few weeks later. He flees to UK and seeks asylum at the Ecuador embassy, on grounds of being afraid that the charges were a false pretense to get him extradited to the US on charges of espionage. The US claimed it was false and there was no intention to get him extradited to the US. He then get kicked out of the embassy, and put in UK jail. Sweden then drops the charges. US then charges him with espionage and request that he should be extradited to the US. Decades later and the court battles continues. His health deteriorate to the point where UN special rapporteur on torture request that the whole affair need to end.

55 points by skilled 2y ago

phyalow 2y ago

A small victory. I truly hope Assange is released from custody as a free man soon.

squarefoot 2y ago
+1. The guy has already suffered well beyond any reasonable limit; no need to rage on him just to make a point.
Log_out_ 2y ago
Bonus points: he gets to high five blair and bush on the way in.. We are better than them even when it comes to usVsThem..

SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago

I hope that the USA decides not to prosecute Mr Assange on this matter of "Espionage charges relating to the publication of thousands of classified and diplomatic documents", which dates back to before the Biden administration. This is not a broader comment either way; on Mr Assange's character or his culpability on any other changes. Be he a hero or a garbage person, it seems better to drop this charge. It is important to separate this and not reduce it to "Assange good" or "Assange bad". That should be irrelevant to the decision of this legal case.

pestatije 2y ago
but he could (id say he almost surely would) reoffend...for the US the most important thing is to keep the guy shut
lbhdc 2y ago
Why do you feel they should drop the charges? Edit: I get that people feel strongly about this, but I am genuinely curious :)
- SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago
  The disclosure was in the public interest. I'm trying to avoid the strong feelings pro and con the person.

skilled 2y ago

"Legal submissions on US assurances" https://assangecourt.report/may-20-docs https://assangecourt.report/may-20-docs > Below you’ll find submissions from Julian Assange’s legal team on the sufficiency of assurances submitted by the US Government - as well as the US Government response - for the appeal hearing on 20 May 2024. // all the links below are PDF files Assange legal team submission (https://bridgesforfreedom.media/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/5-240430-Assange-submissions-re-assurance-final-for-filing.pdf https://bridgesforfreedom.media/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/5...) US response (https://bridgesforfreedom.media/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/First-Respondents-Submissions-on-Assurances-14.5.2024.pdf https://bridgesforfreedom.media/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/F...) Response from Assange legal team (https://bridgesforfreedom.media/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/10-240516-Reply-final-for-filing.pdf https://bridgesforfreedom.media/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/1...)

digitalPhonix 2y ago
From the US response, there's this quote: > 13. Even if nationality and citizenship are meant to be synonymous terms under the 2003 Act Act, - and we submit that they are not - ... What does that mean? As a non-american nationality and citizenship are synonymous to me. What is the difference?
- skilled 2y ago
  Yeah this was brought up in court yesterday a lot. I can’t answer your question directly but the US was being a slime all the way through with the wording of the two. Here is a Twitter thread that shows the live recap of what was said in court: https://x.com/richimedhurst/status/1792493027421720840 https://x.com/richimedhurst/status/1792493027421720840 https://nitter.poast.org/richimedhurst/status/1792493027421720840 https://nitter.poast.org/richimedhurst/status/17924930274217...

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ChrisArchitect 2y ago

Related: Free Julian Assange https://freeassange.org/ https://freeassange.org/ (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40409197 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40409197)

belorn 2y ago

In a decade or so when people who was not even born when all this happen read this story, will they believe any of it? A guy publish a bunch of embarrassing documents from the United States central intelligence agency, including private documents between diplomats. Sweden raises sexual assault charges against him a few weeks later. He flees to UK and seeks asylum at the Ecuador embassy, on grounds of being afraid that the charges were a false pretense to get him extradited to the US on charges of espionage. The US claimed it was false and there was no intention to get him extradited to the US. He then get kicked out of the embassy, and put in UK jail. Sweden then drops the charges. US then charges him with espionage and request that he should be extradited to the US. Decades later and the court battles continues. His health deteriorate to the point where UN special rapporteur on torture request that the whole affair need to end.