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SpaceX doesn't make sense as a business without actually truly thinking space exploration is something worth doing. Rocket companies are bad ways to maximize p

SpaceX doesn't make sense as a business without actually truly thinking space exploration is something worth doing. Rocket companies are bad ways to maximize profits.

Dalewyn 2y ago
SpaceX is a space exploitation business, Starlink being the foremost example but also commercial and governmental launches of Falcon 9 and eventually Starship. Even going to Mars is ultimately a mission of exploitation, not exploration. Space exploration is the duty of governmental space agencies such as NASA, who (assuming sufficient budgeting) can all literally afford to run red ink for entire projects and not have to give a damn.
- rockemsockem 2y ago
  Starlink was basically created to get SpaceX's launch cadence up. Which it absolutely succeeded at. SpaceX exists to cause space exploration/colonization/all-activities to occur, specifically going to Mars, but also more generally. Which again, it has absolutely succeeded at. NASA and other space agencies are indeed picking the missions, but SpaceX has been a huge enabler here.
- fastball 2y ago
  I think space expansion business might be more appropriate verbiage. "Exploitation" has connotations of man-vs-man colonialism, which I don't think apply in the case of outer space.
  - Dalewyn 2y ago
    I feel exploitation is apt: * Whoever gets to Mars (and the Moon for that matter) first in a permanent fashion gets to write all the rules. Full stop. It's also why the US really does not want China achieving a Moon presence first. * Starlink is competing (and winning) against all the incumbent ISPs for being pieces of shit one way or another, especially incumbent satellite ISPs like Hughesnet who are their immediate competitors. It's all man vs. man colonialism in the end. Besides, "to exploit" something means to make productive use of something: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exploit https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exploit
  - zajio1am 2y ago
    'Exploration' / 'exploitation' are established terms for this kind of trade-off, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration-exploitation_dilemma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration-exploitation_dilem...

SpaceX doesn't make sense as a business without actually truly thinking space exploration is something worth doing. Rocket companies are bad ways to maximize profits.

Dalewyn 2y ago

SpaceX is a space exploitation business, Starlink being the foremost example but also commercial and governmental launches of Falcon 9 and eventually Starship. Even going to Mars is ultimately a mission of exploitation, not exploration. Space exploration is the duty of governmental space agencies such as NASA, who (assuming sufficient budgeting) can all literally afford to run red ink for entire projects and not have to give a damn.

rockemsockem 2y ago
Starlink was basically created to get SpaceX's launch cadence up. Which it absolutely succeeded at. SpaceX exists to cause space exploration/colonization/all-activities to occur, specifically going to Mars, but also more generally. Which again, it has absolutely succeeded at. NASA and other space agencies are indeed picking the missions, but SpaceX has been a huge enabler here.
fastball 2y ago
I think space expansion business might be more appropriate verbiage. "Exploitation" has connotations of man-vs-man colonialism, which I don't think apply in the case of outer space.
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  I feel exploitation is apt: * Whoever gets to Mars (and the Moon for that matter) first in a permanent fashion gets to write all the rules. Full stop. It's also why the US really does not want China achieving a Moon presence first. * Starlink is competing (and winning) against all the incumbent ISPs for being pieces of shit one way or another, especially incumbent satellite ISPs like Hughesnet who are their immediate competitors. It's all man vs. man colonialism in the end. Besides, "to exploit" something means to make productive use of something: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exploit https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/exploit
- zajio1am 2y ago
  'Exploration' / 'exploitation' are established terms for this kind of trade-off, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration-exploitation_dilemma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration-exploitation_dilem...