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It's not a single study, though. There have been many studies showing the same results over the past 30 years.

strken 2y ago
What results? "People who go outside live longer"? "People who can afford to leave Sweden to go sunbathing live longer"? I agree with the point about single studies, but even if you have multiple studies they still have to be good studies that answer the actual question you had (which in this case is probably "should I wear a hat and sunscreen?").
- ThrowawayTestr 2y ago
  You really need a study to prove that touching grass is good for you?
  - me_me_me 2y ago
    YES! Otherwise we are talking about feelings and hunches.
  - strken 2y ago
    No, I agree that touching grass is associated with being good for you, I just disagree that higher levels of UV exposure are what makes it good for you. Touching grass has been a confounding variable in every association study I've read which claims to be about sun exposure, and the phrase "sun exposure" is ambiguous enough that it's often misinterpreted as "UV exposure".
- cpncrunch 2y ago
  Maybe you should look at the research before commenting. Try google scholar.
  - strken 2y ago
    This is a glib and dismissive response that tells me nothing. It's about as helpful as "do your own research". Mate, I have done my own research, everything I can find is either a vague association study or has a tiny underpowered treatment group and reeks of publication bias. If Google Scholar is providing you with papers (other than this one, which is about rich Swedish people/Swedish people who go outside more) that prove your hypothesis (which you haven't even stated, just hinted at) then you should either link to those papers or not reply.
    - cpncrunch 2y ago
      I was just replying to the lazy untrue grandparent comment about this being a single study. I'm glad I don't need to do your research for you. As for the discussion, there are multiple lines of evidence pointing to the fact that sunlight does in fact reduce mortality. First, this study controls for exercise, and also found that use of tanning beds reduces all cause mortality, so overall it's a pretty good study. We also know that vitamin D status is negatively correlated with mortality. We also know that nitric oxide reduces blood pressure, and is released from the skin by sunlight.
stjohnswarts 2y ago
Seems kind of like a no brainer given what we know about skin cancer, but I'm kind of surprised if you control for that if it had any other great "opportunity" to increase your lifespan when you control for obvious ones like exercise, diet, and controlling stress. I'm not a big outside lover, but I do take a daily walk to hopefully get bit of vitamin D from it. I mostly exercise indoors and my hobbies are almost all indoors.

What results? "People who go outside live longer"? "People who can afford to leave Sweden to go sunbathing live longer"? I agree with the point about single studies, but even if you have multiple studies they still have to be good studies that answer the actual question you had (which in this case is probably "should I wear a hat and sunscreen?").

ThrowawayTestr 2y ago
You really need a study to prove that touching grass is good for you?
- me_me_me 2y ago
  YES! Otherwise we are talking about feelings and hunches.
- strken 2y ago
  No, I agree that touching grass is associated with being good for you, I just disagree that higher levels of UV exposure are what makes it good for you. Touching grass has been a confounding variable in every association study I've read which claims to be about sun exposure, and the phrase "sun exposure" is ambiguous enough that it's often misinterpreted as "UV exposure".
cpncrunch 2y ago
Maybe you should look at the research before commenting. Try google scholar.
- strken 2y ago
  This is a glib and dismissive response that tells me nothing. It's about as helpful as "do your own research". Mate, I have done my own research, everything I can find is either a vague association study or has a tiny underpowered treatment group and reeks of publication bias. If Google Scholar is providing you with papers (other than this one, which is about rich Swedish people/Swedish people who go outside more) that prove your hypothesis (which you haven't even stated, just hinted at) then you should either link to those papers or not reply.
  - cpncrunch 2y ago
    I was just replying to the lazy untrue grandparent comment about this being a single study. I'm glad I don't need to do your research for you. As for the discussion, there are multiple lines of evidence pointing to the fact that sunlight does in fact reduce mortality. First, this study controls for exercise, and also found that use of tanning beds reduces all cause mortality, so overall it's a pretty good study. We also know that vitamin D status is negatively correlated with mortality. We also know that nitric oxide reduces blood pressure, and is released from the skin by sunlight.

stjohnswarts 2y ago

Seems kind of like a no brainer given what we know about skin cancer, but I'm kind of surprised if you control for that if it had any other great "opportunity" to increase your lifespan when you control for obvious ones like exercise, diet, and controlling stress. I'm not a big outside lover, but I do take a daily walk to hopefully get bit of vitamin D from it. I mostly exercise indoors and my hobbies are almost all indoors.