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I think vundercind was implicitly including Twitch in the phrase "except for a very-few other megacorps". If you're wondering, if you can't get peering, you wi

I think vundercind was implicitly including Twitch in the phrase "except for a very-few other megacorps". If you're wondering, if you can't get peering, you wind up like Twitch. In South Korea. South Korean telecom law explicitly shifts the capital expenditure costs of ISPs over to other online services, which is sort of like the fucked-up opposite of Net Neutrality regulation. So Twitch was being bled dry to pay for the chaebols' network expansion. Hell, even after Twitch left, South Korea fined them for leaving!

thaumasiotes 2y ago
> Hell, even after Twitch left, South Korea fined them for leaving! ...is there some reason for Twitch to pay such a fine? Were any grounds stated for it?
- chimeracoder 2y ago
  > In the wake of them ceasing service, Twitch has been fined for 435 million Korean won – but not for the entire service being terminated. This is related only to them making it so users in South Korea can’t access VODs on the platform, something seen as a direct violation of South Korea’s telecom laws by Korea’s Telecommunications Commission (KCC). > According to Yonhap, the KCC made the decision that Twitch terminating the ability for users in South Korea to access VODs wasn’t necessary to keep the service alive. When asked to justify their claims, Twitch declined due to contractual obligations related to keeping user and site data private. > Additionally, Twitch would have to present evidence that their decision to gradually take features away from South Korean users & leave the country was necessary. This means that Twitch isn’t likely to return service to South Korea any time soon. > There’s also a good chance Twitch will be forced to provide refunds for those who have been affected by the service being discontinued, with the KCC warning Twitch that they need to prepare “user protection measures” as they cease service in the country. https://www.dexerto.com/twitch/south-korea-fines-twitch-over-300k-for-breaking-telecom-laws-2552608/ https://www.dexerto.com/twitch/south-korea-fines-twitch-over...
- dehrmann 2y ago
  Is there even an enforcement mechanism other than arresting executives who go to South Korea or seizing assets that are there?

thaumasiotes 2y ago

> Hell, even after Twitch left, South Korea fined them for leaving! ...is there some reason for Twitch to pay such a fine? Were any grounds stated for it?

chimeracoder 2y ago
> In the wake of them ceasing service, Twitch has been fined for 435 million Korean won – but not for the entire service being terminated. This is related only to them making it so users in South Korea can’t access VODs on the platform, something seen as a direct violation of South Korea’s telecom laws by Korea’s Telecommunications Commission (KCC). > According to Yonhap, the KCC made the decision that Twitch terminating the ability for users in South Korea to access VODs wasn’t necessary to keep the service alive. When asked to justify their claims, Twitch declined due to contractual obligations related to keeping user and site data private. > Additionally, Twitch would have to present evidence that their decision to gradually take features away from South Korean users & leave the country was necessary. This means that Twitch isn’t likely to return service to South Korea any time soon. > There’s also a good chance Twitch will be forced to provide refunds for those who have been affected by the service being discontinued, with the KCC warning Twitch that they need to prepare “user protection measures” as they cease service in the country. https://www.dexerto.com/twitch/south-korea-fines-twitch-over-300k-for-breaking-telecom-laws-2552608/ https://www.dexerto.com/twitch/south-korea-fines-twitch-over...
dehrmann 2y ago
Is there even an enforcement mechanism other than arresting executives who go to South Korea or seizing assets that are there?