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The distinction is philosophical. Tech bros consider "art assests" or consumer oriented products as art. In their eyes its capibility as a tool for profit is a

The distinction is philosophical. Tech bros consider "art assests" or consumer oriented products as art. In their eyes its capibility as a tool for profit is a downstream effect. My point was that since their entire purpose in life revolves around developing and refining technology for the reproduction of capital, it reveals their blindness to any deeper aspect of the human condition than what can be sold for a profit. When people post 3d versions of the Mona Lisa or a shitty remix of Monet's water lillies with breathless praise, it's because in their eyes the stylistic reproduction or reinterpetation of the literal shapes and colors on a flat screen is all there is to art, not merely because it demonstrates utility in replacing already exploited sectors of creative workers. I don't think we disagree about any of this. I think that I'm just making a tangential point to the article in response to a dumb comment, while you are talking about the subject more directly. Otherwise I fail to see what you think is naive, if only because I've seen so many examples of this rot of understanding around the essence of artistic expression from the mouthpieces of silicone valley and our wider, increasingly corporatized, culture.

spywaregorilla 2y ago
> My point was that since their entire purpose in life revolves around developing and refining technology for the reproduction of capital, it reveals their blindness to any deeper aspect of the human condition than what can be sold for a profit And I think that's grossly missing the point. The vast majority of people making art are just trying to make something look aesthetically nice within some sort of provided communication framework. And that's perfectly fine. Frankly I think elevating artists to the pedestal of the illuminating the human condition is very damaging to their actual interests
- monadINtop 2y ago
  Is creating things of aesthetic quality not of value with respect to the human condition? Is not some subset of that aesthetic quality derivative of the intuition and intention of a human mind? Sure, if you want to build some tehchnology to make designing packaging for dog food more effecient go ahead, as long as it isn't the previous dog food packaging creators that are being made to absorb the economic cost of the new technology (which they are). But I hope at last some subset of human art strives to do more than that, and I think it's a bad thing that the incentive to increase revenue at the expense of quality has now expanded past being a tool to improve efficiency of laborious tasks and is now instead cutting costs via cutting artistic value.

spywaregorilla 2y ago

> My point was that since their entire purpose in life revolves around developing and refining technology for the reproduction of capital, it reveals their blindness to any deeper aspect of the human condition than what can be sold for a profit And I think that's grossly missing the point. The vast majority of people making art are just trying to make something look aesthetically nice within some sort of provided communication framework. And that's perfectly fine. Frankly I think elevating artists to the pedestal of the illuminating the human condition is very damaging to their actual interests

monadINtop 2y ago
Is creating things of aesthetic quality not of value with respect to the human condition? Is not some subset of that aesthetic quality derivative of the intuition and intention of a human mind? Sure, if you want to build some tehchnology to make designing packaging for dog food more effecient go ahead, as long as it isn't the previous dog food packaging creators that are being made to absorb the economic cost of the new technology (which they are). But I hope at last some subset of human art strives to do more than that, and I think it's a bad thing that the incentive to increase revenue at the expense of quality has now expanded past being a tool to improve efficiency of laborious tasks and is now instead cutting costs via cutting artistic value.