> Wasn't Apple a serious factor in getting both popular? I don’t think so, especially for BT. > And IIRC they were also the first one to have a Bluetooth stac

> Wasn't Apple a serious factor in getting both popular? I don’t think so, especially for BT. > And IIRC they were also the first one to have a Bluetooth stack that didn't outright suck Bluetooth already was well adopted on non smart mobile phones (feature phones) and then cars primarily for headsets but also OBEX - (2002-2003) long before anyone cared much about desktop use for peripherals, let alone Apple. Apple had nothing to do with popularizing Bluetooth. For USB, it is more nuanced but I think usually overstated. Apple is still a minority in desktop marketshare, but in the 90s even though they were recovering with the iMac, they had basically come from the brink. I don’t think they had the market pull people take for granted now. Intel and VIA were already sticking USB controllers into their Pentium/AMD chipsets “for free”, the ports were inevitably showing up on every bargain basement Wintel PCs. The numbers just dwarf anything Apple was doing even if they adopted early. It’s also not like Apple had market power to compel anybody like Microsoft to do anything like they would a few years later. (Further evidence would be the glut of cheap USB accessories in BRIC countries where Apple had essentially 0% market share in those days). A few years later Apple would make FireWire commonplace on a number of peripheral classes for a short while.