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The "AI" isn't even good. Please don't force integrate more bad features. I don't need an unavoidable assistant that hallucinates, ignores me, and otherwise can

The "AI" isn't even good. Please don't force integrate more bad features. I don't need an unavoidable assistant that hallucinates, ignores me, and otherwise can't follow instructions. How about first making a serious adult home OS in 2024 that isn't a data mining farm, security nightmare, and enthusiastic surveillance portal. What we now have is clownish outside of MacOS, server OSs, or a lot of finagling. The lack of true options at this late date is unreal.

cjk2 2y ago
Yeah I tried copilot and it actually tried to gaslight me into changing the subject. If I want that I would speak to humans. Incidentally I am 100% macOS now. Not because it’s good but because it’s least shit.
- thfuran 2y ago
  Eh. It forbids me from uninstalling a bunch of useless apps that come bundled. That's pretty shit.
  - Klonoar 2y ago
    …what on earth do you find you’re not able to remove?
JonChesterfield 2y ago
I thought that was the point of windows, since 7ish and very obviously since 10? It exists to echo interesting information about the users back to microsoft who then profit from that. I hear the security model is getting better of late, perhaps because the information is less valuable if it's available outside of microsoft. Or if you're less cynical, stream information back to microsoft so they can improve the product in other ways.
righthand 2y ago
MacOS is pretty clownish, if you think Apple isn’t using your data for advertisers when you use their services on their OS I have a bridge to sell you. MacOS also has things like Gatekeeper that play off of FUD as a security feature. The fact that Apple will gladly send your iCloud backups to the feds as well I wouldn’t call it a platform that is exclusive to modern bs.
- TechRemarker 2y ago
  People love to find every any any cracks in Apple. Apple notes right on their site what data they share: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/#accordion-label-5225672c5498955e5dc7195c8c6189d6 https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/#accordion-label-5.... If Apple was lying, and sharing any additional data to advertisers, with privacy a pillar of their whole company, people who have uncovered that, and would be breaking news on every single news site. In regards to to "glady" sharing backups to the feds, I assume you mean, "when legally required" like any company, as Apple has been the one notably fighting against law enforcement when possible and fighting for encryption and releasing new options such as, "Advanced Data Protection for iCloud" for those who especially strong security needs who don't want their iCloud data accessible, but ok with the downsides of such security.
  - 1oooqooq 2y ago
    to "use" macos and ios you hit Agree on so many agreements that it's hard to even keep track. so i will doubt a single page covers them all.
  - akira2501 2y ago
    People like to ignore the fact that Apple has just as much a monopoly as Microsoft and exploits it just as often. Making your fealty to a monopoly a proud point of personality is a distinctly modern affect.
    - righthand 2y ago
      The cult is impressively strong, any criticism is met with mostly silent passive aggressive response. Regardless of the truth of the criticism.
  - righthand 2y ago
    People love to talk down to you as if the cracks you find don’t matter. Just because Apple discloses that they sell, share, and give access to your data doesn’t mean it’s not bad that they’re doing so. And as far as “when legally required” that is to cover Apple’s butt when they do it. When legally required reasons can be stretched so thin with modern erosion and national surveillance. They just renewed FISA just got renewed which makes all data technically available when legally required. Apple only applies enough security to make everyone happy enough to pour money into their bank account, often at the expense of the user and citing that this is best for everyone. It’s not.

cjk2 2y ago

Yeah I tried copilot and it actually tried to gaslight me into changing the subject. If I want that I would speak to humans. Incidentally I am 100% macOS now. Not because it’s good but because it’s least shit.

thfuran 2y ago
Eh. It forbids me from uninstalling a bunch of useless apps that come bundled. That's pretty shit.
- Klonoar 2y ago
  …what on earth do you find you’re not able to remove?

JonChesterfield 2y ago

I thought that was the point of windows, since 7ish and very obviously since 10? It exists to echo interesting information about the users back to microsoft who then profit from that. I hear the security model is getting better of late, perhaps because the information is less valuable if it's available outside of microsoft. Or if you're less cynical, stream information back to microsoft so they can improve the product in other ways.

righthand 2y ago

MacOS is pretty clownish, if you think Apple isn’t using your data for advertisers when you use their services on their OS I have a bridge to sell you. MacOS also has things like Gatekeeper that play off of FUD as a security feature. The fact that Apple will gladly send your iCloud backups to the feds as well I wouldn’t call it a platform that is exclusive to modern bs.

TechRemarker 2y ago
People love to find every any any cracks in Apple. Apple notes right on their site what data they share: https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/#accordion-label-5225672c5498955e5dc7195c8c6189d6 https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/#accordion-label-5.... If Apple was lying, and sharing any additional data to advertisers, with privacy a pillar of their whole company, people who have uncovered that, and would be breaking news on every single news site. In regards to to "glady" sharing backups to the feds, I assume you mean, "when legally required" like any company, as Apple has been the one notably fighting against law enforcement when possible and fighting for encryption and releasing new options such as, "Advanced Data Protection for iCloud" for those who especially strong security needs who don't want their iCloud data accessible, but ok with the downsides of such security.
- 1oooqooq 2y ago
  to "use" macos and ios you hit Agree on so many agreements that it's hard to even keep track. so i will doubt a single page covers them all.
- akira2501 2y ago
  People like to ignore the fact that Apple has just as much a monopoly as Microsoft and exploits it just as often. Making your fealty to a monopoly a proud point of personality is a distinctly modern affect.
  - righthand 2y ago
    The cult is impressively strong, any criticism is met with mostly silent passive aggressive response. Regardless of the truth of the criticism.
- righthand 2y ago
  People love to talk down to you as if the cracks you find don’t matter. Just because Apple discloses that they sell, share, and give access to your data doesn’t mean it’s not bad that they’re doing so. And as far as “when legally required” that is to cover Apple’s butt when they do it. When legally required reasons can be stretched so thin with modern erosion and national surveillance. They just renewed FISA just got renewed which makes all data technically available when legally required. Apple only applies enough security to make everyone happy enough to pour money into their bank account, often at the expense of the user and citing that this is best for everyone. It’s not.