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Firefox on Linux is broken

6 points by drusenko 18y ago

ercowo 18y ago
no it's not. I'm using it right n
- SwellJoe 18y ago
  So, the new Candlejack is Firefox 3.0.3 and Flash Pl
SwellJoe 18y ago
Shouldn't that be "Flash 10 on Linux is broken"? Regardless, I have Flash player 10r12 running on the exact same system configuration and it's working reasonably well. One thing I would suggest, however, is using the 32 bit build of Firefox. It's not perfect, but I run for about a week between crashes with this configuration, and I have a hulu or Flash-based radio window running almost all the time lately...where, before on the 64 bit build, I had a lot of stability problems (with the plugin wrapper thing that allows 64 bit Firefox to use 32 bit plugins--not only did it crash a lot, but Flash felt disjointed from the browser in weird ways and a lot of stuff didn't work).
- indiejade 18y ago
  More like "Flash 10 on FC9 is broken." Fedora 9 was a less than stellar release, from what I've read. Though I tested it for a week or so and didn't have any problems on my install. My advice when this happens: go back to a previous versioning which does work. Fedora, especially, likes to release early and often. Not always a bad thing, but sometimes frustrating. P.S. FC10 is out. Flash 10 + Fedora 10 . . .
- old-gregg 18y ago
  My thoughts exactly... I can't wait for <VIDEO> tag supported by YouTube/Hulu. Once those two can be accessible without Flash, I'm done with this garbage: the front page of ESPN.com does nothing special, in fact it's devoid of any functionality, yet it consumes 35MB of RAM and eats 20% of 2.4Gz CPU at idle. Fucking insane. Die, flash, die. And take all these morons who built businesses on top of this junk with you.
- dhimes 18y ago
  Flash 10 isn't out for fedora yet. I assume they knew there were problems and haven't put it in the repo. Flash 9 on Fedora 9 is working fine.
  - SwellJoe 18y ago
    Flash from Adobe will never be in the official Fedora repository. It isn't Open Source, and Fedora is a pure FOSS distro. Flash 9 on Fedora 9 also has to come from Adobe. And there are Flash 10 binaries from Adobe for Fedora....I'm running 10r12, as I mentioned.
martey 18y ago
I think it is interesting that he says he is using the most recent Firefox version, but later says he is using Firefox 3.0.3 (3.0.5 was released earlier this week). Is this the latest version for Fedora 9? edit Answering my own question - no: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=75053 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=75053
Tichy 18y ago
Ubuntu 8.10, FF 3.0.5 and Flash 10,0,15,3 - not crashing. Not all Flash pages work, but that is fairly normal I guess. Flash sucks... Installed Flash directly, not via Synaptic, if I remember correctly.
mlLK 18y ago
sudo apt-cache showpkg adobe-flashplugin > out EDIT: Package: adobe-flashplugin Versions: 10.0.15.3-1hardy2 (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy_partner_binary-i386_Packages) (/var/lib/dpkg/status) Dependencies: 10.0.15.3-1hardy2 - debconf (16 (null)) debconf-2.0 (0 (null)) fontconfig (0 (null)) libatk1.0-0 (2 1.20.0) libc6 (2 2.4) libcairo2 (2 1.6.0) libcurl3 (0 (null)) libfontconfig1 (2 2.4.0) libfreetype6 (2 2.3.5) libgcc1 (2 1:4.1.1-21) libglib2.0-0 (2 2.12.0) libgtk2.0-0 (2 2.12.0) libnspr4-0d (0 (null)) libnss3-1d (0 (null)) libpango1.0-0 (2 1.20.5) libstdc++6 (2 4.1.1-21) libx11-6 (0 (null)) libxext6 (0 (null)) libxt6 (0 (null)) wget (0 (null)) firefox (0 (null)) konqueror-nsplugins (0 (null)) msttcorefonts (0 (null)) ttf-bitstream-vera (16 (null)) ttf-dejavu (0 (null)) ttf-xfree86-nonfree (0 (null)) x-ttcidfont-conf (0 (null)) xfs (2 1:1.0.1-5) flashplayer-mozilla (0 (null)) flashplugin (3 6) xfs (3 1:1.0.1-5) flashplugin (3 6) Provides: 10.0.15.3-1hardy2 - flashplugin-nonfree EDIT: longest OCD edit/update evar
jcapote 18y ago
It should be Flash 10 on Experimental Linux distribution broken.
Herring 18y ago
Get 3.1b2. I found it considerably faster /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu intrepid main #firefox-3.1 The only problem is you have to install it then update your shortcuts to launch "firefox-3.1" instead of just "firefox." And move your profile to ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.1/<stuff>. I have over 30 extensions & they all worked after updating & overriding compatibility
sadfsa 18y ago
I disabled Flash when I discovered that if a Web page has multiple Flash objects, then each one gets its own thread. Where one Flash object consumes 20% of an average CPU, 20 of them can render a computer unresponsive. I also noticed that even if you disable a Flash object with Adblock, it continues to consume CPU cycles. Flash is Trash.

6 points by drusenko 18y ago

ercowo 18y ago

no it's not. I'm using it right n

SwellJoe 18y ago
So, the new Candlejack is Firefox 3.0.3 and Flash Pl

SwellJoe 18y ago

Shouldn't that be "Flash 10 on Linux is broken"? Regardless, I have Flash player 10r12 running on the exact same system configuration and it's working reasonably well. One thing I would suggest, however, is using the 32 bit build of Firefox. It's not perfect, but I run for about a week between crashes with this configuration, and I have a hulu or Flash-based radio window running almost all the time lately...where, before on the 64 bit build, I had a lot of stability problems (with the plugin wrapper thing that allows 64 bit Firefox to use 32 bit plugins--not only did it crash a lot, but Flash felt disjointed from the browser in weird ways and a lot of stuff didn't work).

indiejade 18y ago
More like "Flash 10 on FC9 is broken." Fedora 9 was a less than stellar release, from what I've read. Though I tested it for a week or so and didn't have any problems on my install. My advice when this happens: go back to a previous versioning which does work. Fedora, especially, likes to release early and often. Not always a bad thing, but sometimes frustrating. P.S. FC10 is out. Flash 10 + Fedora 10 . . .
old-gregg 18y ago
My thoughts exactly... I can't wait for <VIDEO> tag supported by YouTube/Hulu. Once those two can be accessible without Flash, I'm done with this garbage: the front page of ESPN.com does nothing special, in fact it's devoid of any functionality, yet it consumes 35MB of RAM and eats 20% of 2.4Gz CPU at idle. Fucking insane. Die, flash, die. And take all these morons who built businesses on top of this junk with you.
dhimes 18y ago
Flash 10 isn't out for fedora yet. I assume they knew there were problems and haven't put it in the repo. Flash 9 on Fedora 9 is working fine.
- SwellJoe 18y ago
  Flash from Adobe will never be in the official Fedora repository. It isn't Open Source, and Fedora is a pure FOSS distro. Flash 9 on Fedora 9 also has to come from Adobe. And there are Flash 10 binaries from Adobe for Fedora....I'm running 10r12, as I mentioned.

martey 18y ago

I think it is interesting that he says he is using the most recent Firefox version, but later says he is using Firefox 3.0.3 (3.0.5 was released earlier this week). Is this the latest version for Fedora 9? edit Answering my own question - no: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=75053 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=75053

Tichy 18y ago

Ubuntu 8.10, FF 3.0.5 and Flash 10,0,15,3 - not crashing. Not all Flash pages work, but that is fairly normal I guess. Flash sucks... Installed Flash directly, not via Synaptic, if I remember correctly.

mlLK 18y ago

sudo apt-cache showpkg adobe-flashplugin > out EDIT: Package: adobe-flashplugin Versions: 10.0.15.3-1hardy2 (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy_partner_binary-i386_Packages) (/var/lib/dpkg/status) Dependencies: 10.0.15.3-1hardy2 - debconf (16 (null)) debconf-2.0 (0 (null)) fontconfig (0 (null)) libatk1.0-0 (2 1.20.0) libc6 (2 2.4) libcairo2 (2 1.6.0) libcurl3 (0 (null)) libfontconfig1 (2 2.4.0) libfreetype6 (2 2.3.5) libgcc1 (2 1:4.1.1-21) libglib2.0-0 (2 2.12.0) libgtk2.0-0 (2 2.12.0) libnspr4-0d (0 (null)) libnss3-1d (0 (null)) libpango1.0-0 (2 1.20.5) libstdc++6 (2 4.1.1-21) libx11-6 (0 (null)) libxext6 (0 (null)) libxt6 (0 (null)) wget (0 (null)) firefox (0 (null)) konqueror-nsplugins (0 (null)) msttcorefonts (0 (null)) ttf-bitstream-vera (16 (null)) ttf-dejavu (0 (null)) ttf-xfree86-nonfree (0 (null)) x-ttcidfont-conf (0 (null)) xfs (2 1:1.0.1-5) flashplayer-mozilla (0 (null)) flashplugin (3 6) xfs (3 1:1.0.1-5) flashplugin (3 6) Provides: 10.0.15.3-1hardy2 - flashplugin-nonfree EDIT: longest OCD edit/update evar

jcapote 18y ago

It should be Flash 10 on Experimental Linux distribution broken.

Herring 18y ago

Get 3.1b2. I found it considerably faster /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu intrepid main #firefox-3.1 The only problem is you have to install it then update your shortcuts to launch "firefox-3.1" instead of just "firefox." And move your profile to ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.1/<stuff>. I have over 30 extensions & they all worked after updating & overriding compatibility

sadfsa 18y ago

I disabled Flash when I discovered that if a Web page has multiple Flash objects, then each one gets its own thread. Where one Flash object consumes 20% of an average CPU, 20 of them can render a computer unresponsive. I also noticed that even if you disable a Flash object with Adblock, it continues to consume CPU cycles. Flash is Trash.