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Ivermectin doesn't work though, and we knew that then even if he did find a single quack doctor to promote it. And vaccines do reduce transmission, which is al

Ivermectin doesn't work though, and we knew that then even if he did find a single quack doctor to promote it. And vaccines do reduce transmission, which is all I ever heard about it. Not sure what side effects you're talking about.

wakawaka28 2y ago
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- fzeroracer 2y ago
  Ivermectin does nothing. Linking to a site that uses fraudulent research in order to prove an incorrect point does not help your position. There were places in the world that widely distributed Ivermectin as an experimental treatment (such as Brazil) whose health agencies have now, after the fact, said that Ivermectin does not help. You are peddling fraud.
  - wakawaka28 2y ago
    Name one fraudulent paper on that page. I know you didn't look at them. Better yet, give me 3, since you are so convinced it's all fraud.
    - fzeroracer 2y ago
      I will not engage with you further and simply refer you to [1], which includes some of the studies used in your fraudulent website. And the data has only gotten more damning since 2021. [1] https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-you-wanted https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-y...
      - wakawaka28 2y ago
        It's not a fraudulent website. I'm familiar with the blog you linked to and frankly I think it's run by a bunch of snobby conformists who pose as free-thinkers. Therefore, I don't expect much. But I may look over the post when I get time. Thanks for trying, I know what I asked is a lot of work. It's just not as clear-cut as you think, and it certainly wasn't at the time everyone came out against it. Just look at the low depths the media went to in order to smear Ivermectin, a Nobel-prize winning drug for humans with minimal side effects, and that should tell you there is more to it than we were officially told. As I said before, they literally tried to connect the Joe Rogan thing to horse Ivermectin, and fabricated a hoax about an ER not treating gunshot victims because of people falling ill with the veterinary stuff. Meanwhile in Africa, people routinely take inexpensive Ivermectin that they buy with great ease. It all sounds fishy. I can't ignore the official lies, even if I do find some research that claims no benefit is there. If you dig into this stuff more, you'll find that pharmaceutical companies fund studies to cast doubt on established medicines that they can't make money on, such as those with expired patents. If there was a simple silver bullet solution to covid and big pharma couldn't monetize it, they would surely bury the results. The huge investments in vaccines could not be allowed to fail, as many elites were heavily invested in the producers of those vaccines.
- KaiserPro 2y ago
  > Authorities were told from the top to not prescribe it They were also told not to prescribe Metamizole, because it kills people. there is no controversy there (well apart from spain who still have it on license.) > How about the fact it killed some people within minutes? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/6974596/Swedish-girl-grows-back-face-after-reaction-to-Paracetamol.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/697... No drug is 100% safe. How many people were killed per 100k doses? >That the actual data was slated to be suppressed for 75 years for bullshit reasons https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/ https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/ you mean published quarterly > The dictionary even changed the definition of "vaccine" Which dictionary? Also, bear in mind that the dictionary isn't static. Its updated to reflect how english is spoken now, by the public. > In the years since the vaccine came out, many young people have suspiciously dropped dead or at least lost consciousness on live TV Do you have data for that? what does it corrolate to? also depending on the country, some places its the younger that have less uptake. Do you know how hard it is to run a project with 10 people? Do you know how exponentially harder it is to run it for 1000 people? How on earth, looking at how shit the US government is at functioning, can they organise something like that? Moreover, if its the "MSM", who are holding the secrets, do you know how fucking chatty those pricks are? (I used to work for a finance newspaper) All you have to do is take them to the pub and you can find out who's doing what illegal shit. or whos flogging synthetic opioids to the rust belt
  - wakawaka28 2y ago
    >>That the actual data was slated to be suppressed for 75 years for bullshit reasons >https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/ https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/ you mean published quarterly If you don't know what I'm talking about don't make shit up. This was a court proceeding in the US. Yes, people had to sue to get the trial data and again separately to get VAERS data. I forgot which one was supposed to be delayed 75 years (the original Pfizer trial I think) but in any case I remember the judge thought it unreasonable. In the end it was released. The list of possible side effects is huge and includes just about everything you can think of, perhaps by design. >Which dictionary? Also, bear in mind that the dictionary isn't static. Its updated to reflect how english is spoken now, by the public. You can google this easily. As for changing the definition, this vaccine didn't even stop death or infection as claimed. It at best "reduced" bad outcomes and that is negligible at best. >Do you have data for that? what does it corrolate to? also depending on the country, some places its the younger that have less uptake. No because this data is suppressed and never accurately reported. I think the CDC to this day hasn't made separate categories for "death/hospitalization with covid" and "death/hospitalization because of covid". Even when there is an incident, it's blamed on something else or even covid, because the vaccine does not prevent infection. At one point deaths among the vaccinated eclipsed deaths of unvaccinated, because of how many people were vaccinated (if nothing else). >Do you know how exponentially harder it is to run it for 1000 people? How on earth, looking at how shit the US government is at functioning, can they organise something like that? First of all, the truth has largely come out about all the major alleged conspiracy theories. The conspiracy theorists were right about: the lab leak, biowarfare research, gain of function research, Fauci lying and intimidating his subordinates to suppress the truth, and the fact that the vaccines don't stop the spread of covid or even slow it. They were also right about side effects and attempted suppression of trial and VAERS data. Second of all, are you suggesting it is impossible for a large group to conspire to do something, or that crimes can be ongoing even as the public is aware of it? All they have to do to shut it down is call you names and censor you, get you fired, and so on. This has happened to people over the vaccine vs. their basic human rights, don't forget. If all that needed to be done to halt crimes of that scale is make them public, we would not live under the constant state surveillance that we do today, because Snowden exposed all that. >Moreover, if its the "MSM", who are holding the secrets, do you know how fucking chatty those pricks are? (I used to work for a finance newspaper) All you have to do is take them to the pub and you can find out who's doing what illegal shit. or whos flogging synthetic opioids to the rust belt I don't have this personal experience but there have been whistleblowers and even hidden camera exposés on a lot of this shit. James O'Keefe had a big undercover interview with a Pfizer employee, and not long after the board of his nonprofit went rogue and sunk the whole thing. He is still fighting them in court. No doubt they were all bought by Big Pharma or something, because it makes no sense otherwise. Look at the Boeing situation. 2 whistleblowers dead within weeks of each other, and 10 more living in fear. And that's not even the government or the richest company around. Even though Boeing has been exposed, they haven't made any major changes yet.

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fzeroracer 2y ago
Ivermectin does nothing. Linking to a site that uses fraudulent research in order to prove an incorrect point does not help your position. There were places in the world that widely distributed Ivermectin as an experimental treatment (such as Brazil) whose health agencies have now, after the fact, said that Ivermectin does not help. You are peddling fraud.
- wakawaka28 2y ago
  Name one fraudulent paper on that page. I know you didn't look at them. Better yet, give me 3, since you are so convinced it's all fraud.
  - fzeroracer 2y ago
    I will not engage with you further and simply refer you to [1], which includes some of the studies used in your fraudulent website. And the data has only gotten more damning since 2021. [1] https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-you-wanted https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-y...
    - wakawaka28 2y ago
      It's not a fraudulent website. I'm familiar with the blog you linked to and frankly I think it's run by a bunch of snobby conformists who pose as free-thinkers. Therefore, I don't expect much. But I may look over the post when I get time. Thanks for trying, I know what I asked is a lot of work. It's just not as clear-cut as you think, and it certainly wasn't at the time everyone came out against it. Just look at the low depths the media went to in order to smear Ivermectin, a Nobel-prize winning drug for humans with minimal side effects, and that should tell you there is more to it than we were officially told. As I said before, they literally tried to connect the Joe Rogan thing to horse Ivermectin, and fabricated a hoax about an ER not treating gunshot victims because of people falling ill with the veterinary stuff. Meanwhile in Africa, people routinely take inexpensive Ivermectin that they buy with great ease. It all sounds fishy. I can't ignore the official lies, even if I do find some research that claims no benefit is there. If you dig into this stuff more, you'll find that pharmaceutical companies fund studies to cast doubt on established medicines that they can't make money on, such as those with expired patents. If there was a simple silver bullet solution to covid and big pharma couldn't monetize it, they would surely bury the results. The huge investments in vaccines could not be allowed to fail, as many elites were heavily invested in the producers of those vaccines.
KaiserPro 2y ago
> Authorities were told from the top to not prescribe it They were also told not to prescribe Metamizole, because it kills people. there is no controversy there (well apart from spain who still have it on license.) > How about the fact it killed some people within minutes? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/6974596/Swedish-girl-grows-back-face-after-reaction-to-Paracetamol.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/697... No drug is 100% safe. How many people were killed per 100k doses? >That the actual data was slated to be suppressed for 75 years for bullshit reasons https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/ https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/ you mean published quarterly > The dictionary even changed the definition of "vaccine" Which dictionary? Also, bear in mind that the dictionary isn't static. Its updated to reflect how english is spoken now, by the public. > In the years since the vaccine came out, many young people have suspiciously dropped dead or at least lost consciousness on live TV Do you have data for that? what does it corrolate to? also depending on the country, some places its the younger that have less uptake. Do you know how hard it is to run a project with 10 people? Do you know how exponentially harder it is to run it for 1000 people? How on earth, looking at how shit the US government is at functioning, can they organise something like that? Moreover, if its the "MSM", who are holding the secrets, do you know how fucking chatty those pricks are? (I used to work for a finance newspaper) All you have to do is take them to the pub and you can find out who's doing what illegal shit. or whos flogging synthetic opioids to the rust belt
- wakawaka28 2y ago
  >>That the actual data was slated to be suppressed for 75 years for bullshit reasons >https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/ https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/ you mean published quarterly If you don't know what I'm talking about don't make shit up. This was a court proceeding in the US. Yes, people had to sue to get the trial data and again separately to get VAERS data. I forgot which one was supposed to be delayed 75 years (the original Pfizer trial I think) but in any case I remember the judge thought it unreasonable. In the end it was released. The list of possible side effects is huge and includes just about everything you can think of, perhaps by design. >Which dictionary? Also, bear in mind that the dictionary isn't static. Its updated to reflect how english is spoken now, by the public. You can google this easily. As for changing the definition, this vaccine didn't even stop death or infection as claimed. It at best "reduced" bad outcomes and that is negligible at best. >Do you have data for that? what does it corrolate to? also depending on the country, some places its the younger that have less uptake. No because this data is suppressed and never accurately reported. I think the CDC to this day hasn't made separate categories for "death/hospitalization with covid" and "death/hospitalization because of covid". Even when there is an incident, it's blamed on something else or even covid, because the vaccine does not prevent infection. At one point deaths among the vaccinated eclipsed deaths of unvaccinated, because of how many people were vaccinated (if nothing else). >Do you know how exponentially harder it is to run it for 1000 people? How on earth, looking at how shit the US government is at functioning, can they organise something like that? First of all, the truth has largely come out about all the major alleged conspiracy theories. The conspiracy theorists were right about: the lab leak, biowarfare research, gain of function research, Fauci lying and intimidating his subordinates to suppress the truth, and the fact that the vaccines don't stop the spread of covid or even slow it. They were also right about side effects and attempted suppression of trial and VAERS data. Second of all, are you suggesting it is impossible for a large group to conspire to do something, or that crimes can be ongoing even as the public is aware of it? All they have to do to shut it down is call you names and censor you, get you fired, and so on. This has happened to people over the vaccine vs. their basic human rights, don't forget. If all that needed to be done to halt crimes of that scale is make them public, we would not live under the constant state surveillance that we do today, because Snowden exposed all that. >Moreover, if its the "MSM", who are holding the secrets, do you know how fucking chatty those pricks are? (I used to work for a finance newspaper) All you have to do is take them to the pub and you can find out who's doing what illegal shit. or whos flogging synthetic opioids to the rust belt I don't have this personal experience but there have been whistleblowers and even hidden camera exposés on a lot of this shit. James O'Keefe had a big undercover interview with a Pfizer employee, and not long after the board of his nonprofit went rogue and sunk the whole thing. He is still fighting them in court. No doubt they were all bought by Big Pharma or something, because it makes no sense otherwise. Look at the Boeing situation. 2 whistleblowers dead within weeks of each other, and 10 more living in fear. And that's not even the government or the richest company around. Even though Boeing has been exposed, they haven't made any major changes yet.