> "Don't pretend that there are laws that you know everyone will follow," Tingvall says. "That's very unprofessional. You would never do that in aviation or in

> "Don't pretend that there are laws that you know everyone will follow," Tingvall says. "That's very unprofessional. You would never do that in aviation or in other areas where you really care for safety." I've heard this as "trust but verify"