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Donald Trump and Fox News are maybe the canonical examples in modern times. Say what you like about Rupert Murdoch and Trump, they're incredibly effective comm
by felixgallo 2y ago
Donald Trump and Fox News are maybe the canonical examples in modern times. Say what you like about Rupert Murdoch and Trump, they're incredibly effective communicators who have built fanatical religions based on words alone. And what we're about to see is that level of reach and intensity multiplied by millions.
- RandomLensman 2y agoI am not at all convinced that it is really down to the specific communication vs just seizing an opportunity in one of many possible ways. If they were really super effective broadly, then Trump would have won any popular vote easily.
- ben_w 2y ago> If they were really super effective broadly, then Trump would have won any popular vote easily Trump is up against all the other equally effective communicators who are both allowed to and motivated to hold that specific office.
- RandomLensman 2y agoYes, but again it shows there isn't necessarily a dominant way to communicate. Convincing people is hard.
- ben_w 2y agoThis does not appear to dispute the claim that mere communication is an effective way to have a lot of power. Do you think I was claiming someone might be able to demonstrate absolute power, rather than mere relative power? Even Stalin didn't have that, but he would've been one of the closest.
- RandomLensman 2y agoNone of it is mere communication: Need to organise events and travel schedules, create (or shape) organizations, find funds, etc. Communication is perhaps the mostly "visible" part, though.