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Excellent comparison. I would consider those both Riven-Tier games in terms of awe and wonder. There are a few factors affecting emotional appeal, including pha

Excellent comparison. I would consider those both Riven-Tier games in terms of awe and wonder. There are a few factors affecting emotional appeal, including phase in life, age, how much you're used to games, and your main point but... I will say I had nearly as much of a good time with those two games as with Riven. For all three, I had this sinking feeling while playing "I will rarely find works as lovely as these in my life".

Brendinooo 2y ago
Has anyone here played Quern? That was the first time I felt I was playing something Riven-like…well, since playing Riven.
- pferde 2y ago
  I've never played Riven nor Myst, because I just can't find a version or remake that wouldn't suck technically, but I just loved Quern, and one or two similar games I found since. One that stood out to me is "Odyssey - The Story of Science", which is a Myst-like with focus on teaching basics of math and physics through its puzzles.
  - Matumio 2y ago
    I've played Quern for several hours but couldn't bring myself to care as much about the puzzles or, more importantly, walking around the world. It was not too bad, but my memory of Riven is so much stronger. Maybe I should replay it instead, just to walk through this beautiful world again, even without solving all the puzzles (the puzzles are IMO not why you play it). Riven evoked this constant feeling of wonder with the sounds and short cut-scenes adding a lot to the atmosphere. There was this place where you walk down towards the water with a beast sitting there in the sun, and that scene almost has a smell to it. Or maybe my memory is colouring it all rosy now.
  - weaksauce 2y ago
    > because I just can't find a version or remake that wouldn't suck technically the recent myst remake is probably the pinnacle of them... that said the original is well worth playing still and i've played it through a few times now.
    - pferde 2y ago
      Is it this one? https://store.steampowered.com/app/1255560/Myst/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1255560/Myst/ I tried it, and it plays atrociously. Extremely inconsistent FPS, sound choppy and cutting off during movement as new assets are loaded, graphical glitches, just horrible. I refunded it pretty quickly.
      - weaksauce 2y ago
        yeah that's the remake but if you don't have a fast computer I guess it's going to be slow. the original still plays very well though.
        pferde 2y ago
        My computer can play much newer and much more demanding games just fine.
quitit 2y ago
I recall the graphics of titles such as Myst and Donkey Kong Country were in itself newsworthy. There was definitely something appealing in these lower-resolution rendered graphics for the way they hid the imperfections of computer graphics and conveyed more detail than was actually present. In a way our minds filled the gaps. A good example of this are the trees in Myst in this image (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/E9ZtXtFXE84/maxresdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/E9ZtXtFXE84/maxresdefault.jpg). They're just textured cones with a central cylinder, but as composed they look far more richly detailed.
- causality0 2y ago
  The limitations created style. It's why most modern games seem to all look the same,because they have few limits.
  - spywaregorilla 2y ago
    > most modern games seem to all look the same Not even close to accurate
- Abekkus 2y ago
  They were two cones with the same apex, even, just copied and stretched to make a forest.

Brendinooo 2y ago

Has anyone here played Quern? That was the first time I felt I was playing something Riven-like…well, since playing Riven.

pferde 2y ago
I've never played Riven nor Myst, because I just can't find a version or remake that wouldn't suck technically, but I just loved Quern, and one or two similar games I found since. One that stood out to me is "Odyssey - The Story of Science", which is a Myst-like with focus on teaching basics of math and physics through its puzzles.
- Matumio 2y ago
  I've played Quern for several hours but couldn't bring myself to care as much about the puzzles or, more importantly, walking around the world. It was not too bad, but my memory of Riven is so much stronger. Maybe I should replay it instead, just to walk through this beautiful world again, even without solving all the puzzles (the puzzles are IMO not why you play it). Riven evoked this constant feeling of wonder with the sounds and short cut-scenes adding a lot to the atmosphere. There was this place where you walk down towards the water with a beast sitting there in the sun, and that scene almost has a smell to it. Or maybe my memory is colouring it all rosy now.
- weaksauce 2y ago
  > because I just can't find a version or remake that wouldn't suck technically the recent myst remake is probably the pinnacle of them... that said the original is well worth playing still and i've played it through a few times now.
  - pferde 2y ago
    Is it this one? https://store.steampowered.com/app/1255560/Myst/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1255560/Myst/ I tried it, and it plays atrociously. Extremely inconsistent FPS, sound choppy and cutting off during movement as new assets are loaded, graphical glitches, just horrible. I refunded it pretty quickly.
    - weaksauce 2y ago
      yeah that's the remake but if you don't have a fast computer I guess it's going to be slow. the original still plays very well though.
      - pferde 2y ago
        My computer can play much newer and much more demanding games just fine.

quitit 2y ago

I recall the graphics of titles such as Myst and Donkey Kong Country were in itself newsworthy. There was definitely something appealing in these lower-resolution rendered graphics for the way they hid the imperfections of computer graphics and conveyed more detail than was actually present. In a way our minds filled the gaps. A good example of this are the trees in Myst in this image (https://i.ytimg.com/vi/E9ZtXtFXE84/maxresdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/E9ZtXtFXE84/maxresdefault.jpg). They're just textured cones with a central cylinder, but as composed they look far more richly detailed.

causality0 2y ago
The limitations created style. It's why most modern games seem to all look the same,because they have few limits.
- spywaregorilla 2y ago
  > most modern games seem to all look the same Not even close to accurate
Abekkus 2y ago
They were two cones with the same apex, even, just copied and stretched to make a forest.