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This is a puzzle with a known solution, although we have obviously not found an algorithm that passes. Casually isolate the being/algorithm from known conscious
by QuadmasterXLII 2y ago
This is a puzzle with a known solution, although we have obviously not found an algorithm that passes. Casually isolate the being/algorithm from known conscious beings, put it with a bunch of its friends instead, and see if it starts arguing with them about qualia. This will of course require creating an AI self-training algorithm strong enough to invent language independently (otherwise you get LLMs which are likely parotting human arguments about qualia), but it shouldn't require that much compute compared to training and running an AGI for other tasks- humans invent language when you put 30 children together for 30 years (see Nicaraguan Sign Language). This highlights that we have no idea how to train a transformer such that 30 copies of it left on a minecraft server and started from random weights would begin to meaningfully communicate . On the other hand, if 400B parameter versions of openAI's hide and seek AI start arguing with each other about whether ramps are really phlornge or if phlornge is just a property in their heads, we aught to believe that they have qualia.
- tsimionescu 2y agoThis might be sufficient, but it wouldn't be necessary. A lot of humans (though not all) believe that at least some mammals, like dogs or chimps, are conscious, though we know for a fact that they don't discuss their qualia.
- QuadmasterXLII 2y agoDefinitely not necessary. I have no idea how to define a measurable result that is necessary for consciousness, but a thought experiment with a physically measurable outcome that is sufficient proves that consciousness can inpact the material world