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If you get this often, I've noticed it's tied to sleeping position. I'm often at an angle where I'm getting poor oxygenation, sorta like sleep apnea. For me th

If you get this often, I've noticed it's tied to sleeping position. I'm often at an angle where I'm getting poor oxygenation, sorta like sleep apnea. For me this is on my back with no pillow (angle of neck/throat) but I'm fine on my side or stomach.

cjbgkagh 2y ago
Sleep paralysis is consciousness when you are supposed to be knocked out, AFAIK unrelated to oxygen levels. There is possibly a correlation to sleep apnea but I think that is more likely due to hEDS being a common cause for both. hEDS not rare, it is pretty common, far more than doctors think. People with hEDS have very weird drug interactions, many often have a genetic resistance to local and general anesthesia. I think a reasonable explanation is they are also resistant to whatever the chemical the brain uses that causes sleep induced loss of consciousness to the point they are more prone to sleep paralysis. The N of 1 with changing positions is interesting though.
- ineedaj0b 2y ago
  I can consistently give myself sleep paralysis in that position 90% of the time. I am tall, but I don't have any symptoms of hEDS. They'll figure it out someday. I thought more people got sleep paralysis, and just never clued it to it being a certain position (which I believe pinches the neck in a certain angle).
- ordu 2y ago
  > I think a reasonable explanation is they are also resistant to whatever the chemical the brain uses that causes sleep induced loss of consciousness to the point they are more prone to sleep paralysis. I cant rule out your explanation, but I personally in favor of another one. It is not a supression of consciousness doesn't work, it is the clearing blood from whatever the chemical that stops propagating signals to muscles. When everything works good you are relieved of paralisys at the same time your consciousness wakes up. I never experienced sleep paralisys, but when I wake up suddenly and try to move instantly I can sometime feel a fleeting sensation of it. I never gave it a second thought before I learned about sleep paralysis.
ordu 2y ago
It may be linked to a sleeping position, but I'd bet not on poor oxigenation, but on obstructed blood stream that makes it hard to spread that chemical that turns sleep paralysis off. I do not remember details of phisiology of sleep paralysis, what is the paralysing chemical, and which one is stopping it, and where from they come, but it seems plausible that sometimes a sleeping position can make it hard for chemicals to reach muscles and free them from paralysis.

cjbgkagh 2y ago

Sleep paralysis is consciousness when you are supposed to be knocked out, AFAIK unrelated to oxygen levels. There is possibly a correlation to sleep apnea but I think that is more likely due to hEDS being a common cause for both. hEDS not rare, it is pretty common, far more than doctors think. People with hEDS have very weird drug interactions, many often have a genetic resistance to local and general anesthesia. I think a reasonable explanation is they are also resistant to whatever the chemical the brain uses that causes sleep induced loss of consciousness to the point they are more prone to sleep paralysis. The N of 1 with changing positions is interesting though.

ineedaj0b 2y ago
I can consistently give myself sleep paralysis in that position 90% of the time. I am tall, but I don't have any symptoms of hEDS. They'll figure it out someday. I thought more people got sleep paralysis, and just never clued it to it being a certain position (which I believe pinches the neck in a certain angle).
ordu 2y ago
> I think a reasonable explanation is they are also resistant to whatever the chemical the brain uses that causes sleep induced loss of consciousness to the point they are more prone to sleep paralysis. I cant rule out your explanation, but I personally in favor of another one. It is not a supression of consciousness doesn't work, it is the clearing blood from whatever the chemical that stops propagating signals to muscles. When everything works good you are relieved of paralisys at the same time your consciousness wakes up. I never experienced sleep paralisys, but when I wake up suddenly and try to move instantly I can sometime feel a fleeting sensation of it. I never gave it a second thought before I learned about sleep paralysis.

ordu 2y ago

It may be linked to a sleeping position, but I'd bet not on poor oxigenation, but on obstructed blood stream that makes it hard to spread that chemical that turns sleep paralysis off. I do not remember details of phisiology of sleep paralysis, what is the paralysing chemical, and which one is stopping it, and where from they come, but it seems plausible that sometimes a sleeping position can make it hard for chemicals to reach muscles and free them from paralysis.